Gen 2 Carrera PDK to Gen 2 Turbo PDK - any advice?

Counter Of Beans said:

Nice car bricheun, exactly what I'd be looking for if I was to buy - my favourite colour, although I'm a little wary of centre locks (never had them before). Why are so many 997 Turbos Basalt Black?
Anyway, thanks again, exactly the sort of input I was searching for.

Can I ask, did you / have people generally get / got decent p/ex values, or should I sell my car first and then go in as a cash buyer?

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Counter Of Beans said:

Nice car bricheun, exactly what I'd be looking for if I was to buy - my favourite colour, although I'm a little wary of centre locks (never had them before). Why are so many 997 Turbos Basalt Black?
Anyway, thanks again, exactly the sort of input I was searching for.

Can I ask, did you / have people generally get / got decent p/ex values, or should I sell my car first and then go in as a cash buyer?

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bricheun said:

Just sold my Mexico Blue 997.2 C4S with EVOSMIT tune and other goodies and got exactly what you asking 997.2 Turbo PDK.

handling - i think the C4S was better, but i had the Techart springs so not really fair. The test drive in the turbo was what sold me , the torque comes in early but finishes fast ,the 50mph to 100mph pull was finished in seconds , the C4S still was great to drive more linear except a noticable bump in torque from 4000rpm to 7000rpm the power goes on and on and loves to scream. The higher it is reved, the happier the car and the driver. The exhaust note is an exotic burble to a high pitched scream. All this adds to a great driving experience.

In the turbo though, yes it is fast, yes it pulls in the mid range. But what i am missing now is the exhaust note, though it has the Fabspeed cross pipe, the tone is more low frequency, it does not crackle and pop like the C4S.

Maybe i have made the wrong choice, maybe i have not, but the C4S (NA) is still damn fast car which handles so well and more than enough for most people.


Another reason for the turbo was the potential for power gains is huge with the turbo, just a EVOSMIT tune gives 60hp+ easy, whereas the NA cars would take a lot of effort and money. This can wait until I have mastered the stock car which should be plenty for now.

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arifg said:

I had the same issue with the exhaust note. Sharkwerks one sorted that out. The exhaust does crack and pop. I have a cab and the sound is superb.

The 4S I replaced also came with a stock exhaust which I changed to a PSE and that was a cab as well.

The Turbo with the sharkwerks pipe sound better to me than the 4S with the PSE.

bricheun said:

Just sold my Mexico Blue 997.2 C4S with EVOSMIT tune and other goodies and got exactly what you asking 997.2 Turbo PDK.

handling - i think the C4S was better, but i had the Techart springs so not really fair. The test drive in the turbo was what sold me , the torque comes in early but finishes fast ,the 50mph to 100mph pull was finished in seconds , the C4S still was great to drive more linear except a noticable bump in torque from 4000rpm to 7000rpm the power goes on and on and loves to scream. The higher it is reved, the happier the car and the driver. The exhaust note is an exotic burble to a high pitched scream. All this adds to a great driving experience.

In the turbo though, yes it is fast, yes it pulls in the mid range. But what i am missing now is the exhaust note, though it has the Fabspeed cross pipe, the tone is more low frequency, it does not crackle and pop like the C4S.

Maybe i have made the wrong choice, maybe i have not, but the C4S (NA) is still damn fast car which handles so well and more than enough for most people.


Another reason for the turbo was the potential for power gains is huge with the turbo, just a EVOSMIT tune gives 60hp+ easy, whereas the NA cars would take a lot of effort and money. This can wait until I have mastered the stock car which should be plenty for now.

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Counter Of Beans said:

Many of you have mentioned the "turbo rush" as opposed to the more linear delivery of an NA engine.

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Counter Of Beans said:

I think it's "EVOMSIT" isn't it, chaps? Anyway, one of the attractions of (any) Turbo is the ease with which you can increase power. That said, you have to question how much power you can sensibly use on UK roads. I must say I've never felt my car's weedy 345 hp wasn't enough.
Or is it a case of "the more power the better"?
Or, as mention earlier, perhaps the real attraction is the manner in which it's delivered. Many of you have mentioned the "turbo rush" as opposed to the more linear delivery of an NA engine.

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arifg said:

It is indeed EVOMSIT!



Yes my bad ..EVO Motorsport Intelligent Tune.😂

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easternjets said:

As they were the poster car of the 80's & 90's they have that kudos that the other cars in the range don't appear to have. The fact that at one time they were one of the fastest cars in the world and a bit of 'widow maker' all added to the 'turbo' mystique. When I had my Carerra in the early 90's and a friend let me have a shot in his brothers black 911 Turbo in Inverness and it was the scariest thing I think I've ever driven.
Nowadays they are probably one of the easiest to live with Supercars you can own, nothing really comes close to them.
They have a great residual, if you buy the right car in the right colour spec etc.
They are pretty much bullet proof if looked after and the servicing is 2 yearly and about a £1000 should cover a major service.
The PDK box is absolutely brilliant, as others have said in a std Carrera you use the box more, whereas in a turbo you click it down a few gears on the paddles and it's like hitting warp drive, the speed they pick up is staggering. On the Dinslaken trip last year I got split from the group and found myself on an Autobahn so I booted it and in 6 or 7 seconds I was showing 175 mph and it was still pulling like mad, needless to say I bottled it and then missed the Shell station where everyone was waiting!
Buy the right car and you won't go wrong, my only criticism of mine is the brakes are poor and need upgrading.

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bricheun said:

I miss my NA, this is only 4 days after getting the turbo. Dunno, but a 911 should have that boxer engine wail at 7000rpm which the turbo don't have.

But the acceleration out of a junction this morning at full throttle was a shock, I broke twice the speed limit in just under 4 seconds was a shocker. Never thought it was that powerful.

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arifg said:

You have to get the exhaust sorted!
I was moaning about the exhaust sound on the forum immediately after I bought it.

bricheun said:

I miss my NA, this is only 4 days after getting the turbo. Dunno, but a 911 should have that boxer engine wail at 7000rpm which the turbo don't have.

But the acceleration out of a junction this morning at full throttle was a shock, I broke twice the speed limit in just under 4 seconds was a shocker. Never thought it was that powerful.

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bricheun said:

arifg said:

You have to get the exhaust sorted!
I was moaning about the exhaust sound on the forum immediately after I bought it.

bricheun said:

I miss my NA, this is only 4 days after getting the turbo. Dunno, but a 911 should have that boxer engine wail at 7000rpm which the turbo don't have.

But the acceleration out of a junction this morning at full throttle was a shock, I broke twice the speed limit in just under 4 seconds was a shocker. Never thought it was that powerful.

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Which one you recommend? Only got the fabspeed xpipe.

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