Welcome to 911UK
The only place for Porsche, 911uk is the definitive enthusiast and resource site for the Porsche 911.
Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so join up today for full access to the site and benefit from latest member offers.

Porsche Classifieds
Sell Your Porsche on 911uk
Create a Free Classified Advert
Search Ads
Classified Adverts FAQ
Trade Classified Information
Buyer & Seller Fraud Protection
Consumer Rights Act
Pre Purchase Inspection (PPI)
Porsche Car Sourcing
Porsche Cars Wanted
Official Porsche Centre Reviews
Model
Stock
Porsche 911
991 : 2011- 17
997 : 2004- 65
996 : 1997-2005 31
993 : 1993-1998 3
964 : 1989-1993 6
Carrera 3.2 : 1983-1989 2
Carrera SC : 1977-1983 2
930 Turbo : 1975-1989 0
Early 911 : 1964-1977 3
Porsche Other Models
Classic : 1950-1965 0
Boxster : 1997- 18
Cayman : 2005- 12
Cayenne : 2003- 3
Macan : 2014- 1
Panamera : 2009- 0
912-914-924-928-944-968 1
959 - CarreraGT - RaceCar 1
Car Parts For Sale & Wanted
Other Items For Sale & Wanted
Wheels Tyres For Sale & Wanted
Number Plates For Sale Wanted

Porsche Services
Porsche Body Shop Repair
Paint Protection & Wrapping
Porsche Classic Insurance
Porsche Classic Parts
Porsche Classic Restoration
Porsche Design Collection
Porsche Engine Gearbox Rebuild
Porsche Heritage & History
Porsche News
Porsche Picture Gallery
Win a New Porsche 911

Porsche Parts
Body Parts, Body Styling
Brakes, Clearance
Electrical, Exhausts
Engine Cooling, Engine Electrical
Engine Rebuild, Heating Cooling
Interior Incar, Lighting
Rubber Seals, Service Parts
Steering, Suspension
Transmission, Workshop Tools
Early 911, 911 - 930, 928 - 968
964 - 993, 996 - 997, Boxster
Cayman, Cayenne, Panamera

Porsche Model Range
911 [991] 2011-Current
Porsche 911 [991]
911 [997] 2004-Current
Porsche 911 [997]
911 [GT] GT1-GT2-GT3
Porsche 911 [GT]
911 [996] 1997-2005
Porsche 911 [996]
911 [993] 1993-1998
Porsche 911 [993]
911 [RS] RS-RSR
Porsche 911 [RS]
911 [964] 1989-1993
Porsche 911 [964]
911 3.2 1983-1989
Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera
911 SC 1977-1983
Porsche 911 SC
911 [Early] 1964-1977
Porsche 911 [Early]
Boxster & Cayman
Porsche Boxster & Cayman
Cayenne & Panamera
Porsche Cayenne & Panamera

911uk Site Partners

Post new topic   Reply to topic
Author Message
DucatiRob
Albert Park


Joined: 22 Jul 2015
Posts: 1616
Location: Milton Keynes

2006 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:14 pm    Post subject: Two Days at Center Gravity & Ohlins Fitted Reply with quote

Had a great couple of days at Center Gravity on Thurs & Fri for my Ohlins R&T fitting and full geo! Was a little worried about the weather on Thursday morning, -7 degrees and a really heavy frost but no snow and traffic wasn't too bad, was a little late but there was a mug of tea waiting for me when I got there Thumb

I can only confirm what others have said about CG on here, they really do know their stuff, but it's the friendly attitude and passion about what they do that makes the experience all the more satisfying and you know you are in good hands. Both Peter and Chris go out of their way to explain exactly what they do and what can be achieved.

I was well looked after by Peter, starting with a test drive on a route they know well, Peter confirmed straight away that my car was not behaving quite as it should. The steering feel hasn't been what it used to be, but I guess over a period of time it's hard to pinpoint, particularly if you don't have experience of driving other 911's!

Back at the workshop Peter got busy dismantling the suspension whilst I make myself at home in the office/reception with a tv, kettle and my laptop to catch up on a little work! You are welcome to pop into the workshop any time and the office has a great view of what's going on.

There is a fair amount of work to replace all the components I had bought, lower control arms all round, front diagonals, top mounts/bearings, drop links and inner tie rods & track rod ends! Luckily, the only things that needed doing that I hadn't bought with me were front anti-roll bar bushes that Peter ordered from Porsche and delivered on the Friday morning.

My top mounts were shot, front control arms not great and n/s inner tie rod was the worst Peter had seen Surprised explaining the nadgery handling over bumpy surfaces. By the end of Thursday Peter had the Ohlins built and fitted and nearly all the other bits on the car, leaving Friday for the set-up, corner weighting and full geo.

My car was already quite low at the front, probably down to tired springs, 119mm front axle height so 14mm lower than it came out the factory, rear was pretty much spot on. You can have pretty much any height dialled in with the Ohlins, I wanted to drop the car by around 20mm, I already scrape over speed bumps so this seemed a good compromise. As there is limited camber adjustment, none on the front, any lower and Peter explained tyre wear would suffer. We ended up with 105mm at the front (28mm drop) and 133mm at the rear (20mm drop). Pretty much a the same as a GT3 ((108/133).

Ride Height - Final tweaking


The final step is a test drive on the same route as at the start, initially Peter taking the controls to check everything is in order then handing over to me. Wasn't quite sure what to expect, particularly with new shocks and various components.. what a revelation!! Even just pootling along it feels a difference beast, easy to control with just your fingertips, I wasn't aware how much the car was fighting against me before! Even on the nadgery B road so easy to steer and loads more feedback, turn in feels much more positive and direct. Hard to give a detailed review in just a few short miles, and my drive home was all motorway but overall I am absolutely delighted thumbsup The Ohlins have transformed the ride, they are obviously stiffer that the PASM(off) but so much smoother and more comfortable on the road. The motorway journey home was almost pleasurable, in fact there seems to be less road noise now too Question

Overall I am over the moon with how the car feels now, cannot fault the the service and hospitality form Pete and Chris (Holly and Jayne too), in my opinion fantasic value, they didn't even charge me for the courtesy car as I was only staying a mile down the road.

Can't wait for some warmer weather and dry roads to give it a thorough shakedown Drive

One very happy customer thumbsup
_________________
Present
Carrera C2S Manual-Full Hartech Rebuild
Mercedes CLK DD
Ducati 996
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Kettmark
Newbie


Joined: 26 Jul 2018
Posts: 43



PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice write up.
What sort of money were the Ohlins & full geo if you don't mind me asking please?
Could be my next mod.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
rob_p
Österreich


Joined: 20 Oct 2013
Posts: 926
Location: Leicester


PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice write up... all sounds very familiar!
Great guys, great service.
_________________
991.1 C2 (no mods, yet)
997.1 C2 (full Hartech rebuild, Ohlins coilovers, ducktail, plus some other bits)
Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2
Ex Audi A8 V8 4.2tdi (best all round car I will ever own?)
Ex Porsche Boxster 986
Ex Mazda MX5 mk1
Plus some other stuff that wasn't very interesting....
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
DucatiRob
Albert Park


Joined: 22 Jul 2015
Posts: 1616
Location: Milton Keynes

2006 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kettmark wrote:
Nice write up.
What sort of money were the Ohlins & full geo if you don't mind me asking please?
Could be my next mod.


I bought the Ohlins from Design911, with their seasonal discount they were the cheapest anywhere in the UK, about £2,200! I think CG estimate around 6 hours for a full geo at £75/h+VAT! If you give them a call or drop them a line they will give you a good idea of what expect.
_________________
Present
Carrera C2S Manual-Full Hartech Rebuild
Mercedes CLK DD
Ducati 996
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
alex yates
Le Mans
Le Mans


Joined: 06 Mar 2014
Posts: 15541
Location: The Ribble Valley, Lancashire

2000 Porsche 996 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CG thumbsup. Nuff Said.
_________________
2000 Manual 996 C4 Arctic Silver Convertible


 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Counter Of Beans
Monza


Joined: 10 May 2018
Posts: 229
Location: Hampshire


PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news Rob, glad it was a good experience. I'm due back there in a few weeks, I will try to persuade them to move 150 miles nearer to me on the south coast (joking)!
_________________
2011 Gen 2 Carrera 2 coupe, Ohlins R&T, CGR Automotive full exhaust. Arctic / black.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
DucatiRob
Albert Park


Joined: 22 Jul 2015
Posts: 1616
Location: Milton Keynes

2006 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counter Of Beans wrote:
Good news Rob, glad it was a good experience. I'm due back there in a few weeks, I will try to persuade them to move 150 miles nearer to me on the south coast (joking)!


Luckily only an hour from where I am, traffic permitting! Good guys, just wish some of the Indies I've visited would take a leaf out of their book re how to treat paying customers!
_________________
Present
Carrera C2S Manual-Full Hartech Rebuild
Mercedes CLK DD
Ducati 996
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
jml3p
Monza


Joined: 25 Oct 2009
Posts: 172
Location: effingham in surrey


PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great write up!
 
  
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
   
Marky911
Watkins Glen


Joined: 04 Jun 2009
Posts: 2177



PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one!

As you say they are great guys with superb knowledge.
Your car will drive better than when it was new now.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
boardingnath997
Trainee


Joined: 28 Sep 2016
Posts: 70



PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need more after photos!
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
DucatiRob
Albert Park


Joined: 22 Jul 2015
Posts: 1616
Location: Milton Keynes

2006 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boardingnath997 wrote:
Need more after photos!


Took a load of pics while I was there, when I get a minute will upload!
_________________
Present
Carrera C2S Manual-Full Hartech Rebuild
Mercedes CLK DD
Ducati 996
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
KJD
Suzuka


Joined: 18 Feb 2015
Posts: 1226
Location: Monmouthshire


PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds awesome Rob. I’ll bet it’s better that a new one now. Thumb
_________________
Arctic Silver 997 Manual Carrera 2s
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
HSC911
Long Beach


Joined: 23 Jul 2014
Posts: 6286
Location: Bedford


PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only hear good things about CoG thumbsup

Might have to book in at some point too Thumb
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
DucatiRob
Albert Park


Joined: 22 Jul 2015
Posts: 1616
Location: Milton Keynes

2006 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KJD wrote:
Sounds awesome Rob. I’ll bet it’s better that a new one now. Thumb


It almost feels like a new car Kev, will certainly be making a visit there maybe every other year for a health check, has brought it home to me how much of a difference small adjustments can make and how important it is on a performance car. You just don’t notice the deterioration over a period of time!
_________________
Present
Carrera C2S Manual-Full Hartech Rebuild
Mercedes CLK DD
Ducati 996
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
DucatiRob
Albert Park


Joined: 22 Jul 2015
Posts: 1616
Location: Milton Keynes

2006 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took the car out for a good blast yesterday, it is definitely quieter than before, much less road noise, which is strange as the standard PASM struts have a thick squidgy buffer between the spring and the top mount! The Ohlins just has an aluminium spacer!

A bit too cold for a really good test, but driving on a few roads I know well the difference is huge, feeling and feedback is so much better than before. I had told Peter that I’d been a little disappointed with the Michelin PSS when I had them fitted, he’d suggested that it was nothing to do with the tyres and that was clearly the case, even though the temperature was too low to push the car much it’s now clear that the grip and feel from the tarmac is way better than it was before, and I thought it was already brilliant! thumbsup way Smile
_________________
Present
Carrera C2S Manual-Full Hartech Rebuild
Mercedes CLK DD
Ducati 996
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
ThomasG
Newbie


Joined: 25 Dec 2014
Posts: 14
Location: Germany


PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also installed the Ohlins last season. It‘s really worth the money.

Could you please give some details about your settings front/rear? I‘m currently at 15 clicks both.

Would also be interested in your geo settings. I guess, this can be improoved on mine.

Thomas
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
DucatiRob
Albert Park


Joined: 22 Jul 2015
Posts: 1616
Location: Milton Keynes

2006 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThomasG wrote:
I also installed the Ohlins last season. It‘s really worth the money.

Could you please give some details about your settings front/rear? I‘m currently at 15 clicks both.

Would also be interested in your geo settings. I guess, this can be improoved on mine.

Thomas


Hi Thomas, no problem, settings below. I think the Ohlins are fantastic for the money, great value! I asked for the geo to be set up for fast A/B road driving. CG set the Ohlins to 14 clicks from fully stiff as a base setting, I think this is relatively soft (but stiffer than standard PASM off). Haven't had chance to play around yet as still getting used to the new feel Thumb

A good alignment centre should be able to get close to these settings if your ride height is similar.






_________________
Present
Carrera C2S Manual-Full Hartech Rebuild
Mercedes CLK DD
Ducati 996
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
johnt993997
Newbie


Joined: 13 Jan 2019
Posts: 30
Location: Hertfordshire / Buckinghamshire border nr. Aylesbury / Hemel Hempstead


PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rob & all,
Thanks for this info, very interesting - I'd love to get my sus done similarly at some point in the mid term! Perhaps K&W though.
Question - the front coffin / control arms, did you just use standard OEM coffin arms, and if so are they good (CG approved!) for such a set up and drop (think you ended up about -2Cool.
I need to get one of my coffin arms done soon, but don't want to fork out over £400 if the part would need to be swapped again if I upgrade and lower the suspension. For example if a gt3 part was needed for this...?

Also, has anyone used TRW control arms?
https://m.mister-auto.co.uk/suspension-arm-track-control-arm/trw-jtc1167_g273_a161JTC1167.html
(not sure if these come with the bushings / hardware though?)
They're a third of the price, I've read they're from the same factory (but this seems to be a regular online 'thing' to hear) yet my local specialist said he recommends OEM (but then, they would wouldn't they?)
I don't mind paying for quality, but I don't just pay blindly for OEM!

Thanks for any assistance guys!
_________________
997.1 C2S #blackandgold (hartech'd)
E46 M3 manual coupe
Lotus Exige
Porsche 993 c2 manual coupe (should never have sold!)
AMG E55 (W210) // BMW E46 330i touring // BMW E36 328i touring (first propper car!) // Various dull cars before!
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
crash7
Montreal


Joined: 28 May 2011
Posts: 570



PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The TRW arms are OEM. - TRW manufacture the parts for Porsche.

If your changing your coffins arms do so in a pair.

To get -0.5 degrees on the front this can easily be achieved with the standard control arms by moving the top mounts in the slots.

If you want -2 degrees, which unless your tracking the car regularly is not required, you would ideally need 2 piece GT3 lower control arms.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
DucatiRob
Albert Park


Joined: 22 Jul 2015
Posts: 1616
Location: Milton Keynes

2006 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnt993997 wrote:
Hi Rob & all,
Thanks for this info, very interesting - I'd love to get my sus done similarly at some point in the mid term! Perhaps K&W though.
Question - the front coffin / control arms, did you just use standard OEM coffin arms, and if so are they good (CG approved!) for such a set up and drop (think you ended up about -2Cool.
I need to get one of my coffin arms done soon, but don't want to fork out over £400 if the part would need to be swapped again if I upgrade and lower the suspension. For example if a gt3 part was needed for this...?

Also, has anyone used TRW control arms?
https://m.mister-auto.co.uk/suspension-arm-track-control-arm/trw-jtc1167_g273_a161JTC1167.html
(not sure if these come with the bushings / hardware though?)
They're a third of the price, I've read they're from the same factory (but this seems to be a regular online 'thing' to hear) yet my local specialist said he recommends OEM (but then, they would wouldn't they?)
I don't mind paying for quality, but I don't just pay blindly for OEM!

Thanks for any assistance guys!


Hi John,

I used Meyle parts mostly, I had a good chat with CG before ordering the parts as I was initially looking at the Spyderperformance deal on eBay, for all lower control arms and tuning forks, I didn't go this route in the end due to some concerns around the Powerflex bushes and the fit in the arms that other forum members had raised on here. CG were perfectly happy with Meyle components. Think you are right, TRW make the OEM parts for Porsche, they also make the inner and outer track rods!

All these control arms come with the bushings and ball joints fitted. Note, the link you have posted is a rear control arm, the fronts have a different bush.

I would imagine that most garages would reccomend the so called OEM parts as they would probably make more profit by supplying them!

Whichever way you go, worth a chat with CG, for what I wanted the Ohlins are perfect, if you plan to do a lot of track work then KW might be worth considering as well as a different geo set-up!
_________________
Present
Carrera C2S Manual-Full Hartech Rebuild
Mercedes CLK DD
Ducati 996
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   All times are GMT - 12 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum