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1993 Porsche 964 Anniversary

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea why they flog that brown dash. I've even seen it on black cars Confused
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2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been running a 2017 Deisel S for just over a year now without any problems. The engine sounds great and chucks out less CO2 than media would have you believe. To get around DPF issues 90% trips are longer journeys, prefer to use the petrol Mini for nipping into town etc.
The pan roof and seats are great, the lights are brilliant and plenty of other kit
keep you entertained.
V8 sounds great on start up and has epic torque for strong acceleration.
One thing I can say is that 650 to 700 miles on one tank is easily achievable, best mpg ever on a long trip was 46 worse was 28 when spanking it down the autobahn. It's up to you!
When all the ships, HGVs and volcanoes have stopped doing their thing I'll worry about my 8,000 miles a year in the Cayenne diesel monster.
Hydrogen cells are the real future anyway but thats another debate. Good
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Blakeyjersey
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Location: Jersey, Channel Islands


PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So here's where i'm at......

Diesel S
https://www.lecachet.co.uk/listings/porsche-cayenne/
Positives
Black with silver alloys (i'm ok with the Carmine on GTS but prefer this)
Cream 18 way sports seats
Carbon fibre interior trim
2014 - 27,000 miles (GTS 2012 - 36,000 miles)
Next service not due till July 2020
Lower fuel costs compared to GTS

Negatives
Probably DPF issues (big concern)
Poop brown dash
Slight scratches on rear bumper
Slight kerbing to alloys
Tyre depth lot lower than GTS
No space saver wheel (he said they didn't come with one but i think it should)
No heated rear seats (not a deal breaker)


GTS
http://beaumontcarsales.com/cars/2012-porsche-cayenne-gts-v8-tiptronic-s
Positives
£2k cheaper than Diesel S
Fairly new tyres all round
Heated rear seats
PDCC
No DPF issues
GMG won't be upset with me

Negatives
2 years older and 9,000 miles more than Diesel S
Slight wear to rear seat where child seat has been
Due service (although would ensure this is done prior to purchase)
No 18 way sports seats
Higher fuel costs
 
  
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2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on the worry of DPF issues and probably you are lowish mileage too being on the island most of time, therefore less fuel spend you could probably be better off with the GTS.

Have you considered looking further away for one? Theres a decent looking GTS at Aberdeen Porsche main dealer for example, other dealers are available. I usually have to travel a fair way to find the right car, not much choice locally usually in my experience.
 
  
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Blakeyjersey
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Location: Jersey, Channel Islands


PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd looked at approved used as the 2 year warranty would be great and had seen the one up at Aberdeen, think it looks fantastic.
Unfortunately i'd have to pay 5% tax to import it here, plus £1,900 VED and then obviously the cost of travel/ferry etc means it's not really an option.

There don't seem to be any VAT Qualifying ones about and if they were they'd most likely be at non-Porsche dealership so no benefit of the warranty.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can i just add ..

i dont hate deisels .. i just fix them ..

I know from the issues we have had at work that the DPF can cause problems .. it needs a fairly long run to clean them out .. its a burning operation .. more and less fuel is added to create a high temp in the " filter " to clean them .. if this is not acheived during normal operation then it ends up with guys like me trying to fix the fault .


We do this with a tester .. 30 min job and we have to be in the car the whole time .

There are many values we can see on a tester to figure out how bad a Dpf is .


For what you are contemplateing and from what little i know then i think a diesel is not the best for you .. hence i point it out .

Its all i can do to add to this post .
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Blakeyjersey
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deMort wrote:
can i just add ..

i dont hate deisels .. i just fix them ..

I know from the issues we have had at work that the DPF can cause problems .. it needs a fairly long run to clean them out .. its a burning operation .. more and less fuel is added to create a high temp in the " filter " to clean them .. if this is not acheived during normal operation then it ends up with guys like me trying to fix the fault .


We do this with a tester .. 30 min job and we have to be in the car the whole time .

There are many values we can see on a tester to figure out how bad a Dpf is .


For what you are contemplateing and from what little i know then i think a diesel is not the best for you .. hence i point it out .

Its all i can do to add to this post .


I hope you don't think i was having a pop at you at all, i appreciate the advice you've given and was hoping that someone with your experience and expertise would comment. It was GMG i was aiming the 'i get it you hate diesels' comment at as he was quite blunt about it.

Are there any issue you see with the Petrols i should be aware of?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good grief no .. i was just stateing my opinion .. i can honestly say there is only one person in my black book after all these years .. and thats certainly not you Very Happy

There are no set issues with petrol .. i see the occasional fault .. and these can be costly but they are one offs .. im afaid anything can break on a car but unless its repetative then its not an issue .

But i am afraid .. ***** does happen with any car ... pretty rare with Porsche though .
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Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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Location: Inverness & Kazakhstan

2011 Porsche 997 Turbo S

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deMort wrote:
Good grief no .. i was just stateing my opinion .. i can honestly say there is only one person in my black book after all these years .. and thats certainly not you Very Happy

There are no set issues with petrol .. i see the occasional fault .. and these can be costly but they are one offs .. im afaid anything can break on a car but unless its repetative then its not an issue .

But i am afraid .. ***** does happen with any car ... pretty rare with Porsche though .


Diesel Cayenne , especially the V8 is a beast ...

Transfer boxes can be an issue .....not sure of exact figures though ........
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Diesel S V8 is a great car and with a remap is petrol turbo quick!

Transfer box fluid should be changed more regularly than specified to prevent slippage. Easy DIY.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Transfer box issues .. pretty rare .. there was a recall years ago on these though .

Ive seen 2 in the last year .. and none in the year before that .. fault is kinda like a hesitation so us lot tend to think its an engine fault .. but once you drive them then it becomes apparent .. disconnect the wiring to the transfer box then r/t to prove the fault .
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