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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many "Cat" cars work fine. But that's not the same as being valued as "non-cat" cars. We can discuss the relative logic of that as long as we wish, but the reality is the value is impacted by cat status.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised by the laid back comments on this thread... If that was my car i'd be shi$$ing bricks.

Get it to a good bodyshop repair outfit pronto and get it professionally assessed. Thumb

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cableguy wrote:
I'm surprised by the laid back comments on this thread... If that was my car i'd be shi$$ing bricks.

Get it to a good bodyshop repair outfit pronto and get it professionally assessed. Thumb

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Same, I would want to know WHY this had happened
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I would get a decent accident repair outfit to look the car over and weld it up.

They can measure various points on the body to tell if its straight, and will know where the weak points are to look for more cracks.

I wouldn't be doing any autobahnstorming in the meantime.

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Cat C/D cars you KNOW 100% something happened, if there is evidence then you can assess how well its been fixed.

Non recorded cars, you have no idea what repairs it has had in life. On a valuable car, they could be major.

Inspect any purchase thoroughly. Cat C/D can be a bargain as people avoid them for some reason.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interested to know how this resolves. You would think that if caused by accident damage there would by other signs.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albionmuz wrote:
cableguy wrote:
I'm surprised by the laid back comments on this thread... If that was my car i'd be shi$$ing bricks.

Get it to a good bodyshop repair outfit pronto and get it professionally assessed. Thumb

C.


Same, I would want to know WHY this had happened


Looking at it again, I think that that nut has been buttoned up too tightly with a rattle gun or breaker bar and caused the crack, the fracture line follows the edge of the nut base and it's on the 'edge' of the fabrication where the metal bends around the strut tower.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any news on this one?
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AP90, I have been told seems a number of police cars are suffering similarly damaged tower tops, the cause of which is suggested to be related to increased loadings on the towers as the result of hitting speed bumps etc at higher speeds than would expect to in more normal circumstances... Question
 
  
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Jack Frost
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The yellow and red witness marks aren't aligned which would suggest someone has "nipped it up" ?

As someone else has said - drill the end of the crack and weld it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it can be/was normal practice in OPC`s to dab paint on such nuts after torquing, which indicated that the task was complete and that it had not been disturbed since..? That there are both yellow and red paint marks would cause me to think that there had been possibly two events carried out by knowledgeable spanner wielders relating to the suspension strut and perhaps a third or more by someone less ..err..caring..?

Given 993`s are now old cars and some can have a measure of chassis corrosion occurring from the inside out, caused by condensation over many years, even in a car that has never been out in the rain.

Those that have may even have driven through a ford, or a puddle or two in their time in the UK adding to the chance of water ingress, any and all of which can equate to a measure of structural degradation in time...? Who has not hit a water filled pothole that was just thought to be a puddle...etc.etc.etc.

Weld it up and forget it seems less than ideal..... with a bit of LUCK it might be nothing worth worrying about..and if the time /cost of checking it out is deemed too much for any reason, then I guess that might be down to how much of a gambler you want or are forced to be..?

If ever prepared to trust to luck relative to any task, an old workmate would say "It matters not, until it matters, and when it does, it can REALLY matter"... Works for me.. Though happy to consider alternatives.. Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems that the crack follows the line of the two ‘rivets’ near the top bolt in pic 1. If they have stopped the top layer of steel lying flat on the lower level, tightening the bolt would try to bend the upper layer and create a stress line which ultimately fractures. My guess is that the lower level is not damaged and this should be checked. I would then see if the upper layer could be cut out and replaced, ensuring a proper fit with the lower.
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