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Tobyone
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G2 wrote:
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Have been looking and wondering about getting one the last few months over another 911 Dont know


What 911 are you considering if you don’t mind me asking?


Around spring time.
A toss up between a 997 Turbo, GTS or GT3 any of these low milage in a nice colour and spec.


Thumb all great options.


To be honest I don't blast around anymore, to many wallys around and these blooming average speed camera things.
More like 'driving miss daisy' these days.
Nice colour, something to polish and float about in.
Ooooh a sedan chair would be nice
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G2 wrote:
Tobyone wrote:
G2 wrote:
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Have been looking and wondering about getting one the last few months over another 911 Dont know


What 911 are you considering if you don’t mind me asking?


Around spring time.
A toss up between a 997 Turbo, GTS or GT3 any of these low milage in a nice colour and spec.


Thumb all great options.

Agreed you won’t go far wrong with either of those and unlike most McLaren’s you’ll be able to upgrade or sell without losing to much thumbsup
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Was not planning on ever selling my 997.2 turbo, however a Mclaren has become available which I’m extremely tempted to buy.


We never say never Smile which model McLaren?


MP4 12C or possibly a 650S
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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apollokre1d wrote:
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Was not planning on ever selling my 997.2 turbo, however a Mclaren has become available which I’m extremely tempted to buy.


We never say never Smile which model McLaren?


MP4 12C or possibly a 650S


£3,600pa for the warranty puts me off. And you can't sell one without the warranty it appears, even if you've had it inspected with a Colini stick. Some suggestion 12C prices have bottomed out so depreciation may be nominal unlike some of the others that fall out of bed what
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikeracer1098 wrote:
apollokre1d wrote:
Bikeracer1098 wrote:
Was not planning on ever selling my 997.2 turbo, however a Mclaren has become available which I’m extremely tempted to buy.


We never say never Smile which model McLaren?


MP4 12C or possibly a 650S


Look forward to hearing your thoughts on how they compare
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I'm watching that show that wraps cars, they have a McLaren in for a make over and the battery dies whilst in the workshop. I thought the Porsche tax was taking the Mickey.
A replacement battery for a 12C is £2800 plus it needs to be done by McLaren to code the new battery in at what ever their hourly labour rate is. £2800! Surprised Surprised Surprised
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So I'm watching that show that wraps cars, they have a McLaren in for a make over and the battery dies whilst in the workshop. I thought the Porsche tax was taking the Mickey.
A replacement battery for a 12C is £2800 plus it needs to be done by McLaren to code the new battery in at what ever their hourly labour rate is. £2800! Surprised Surprised Surprised

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I am genuinely staggered at this figure.
Simply nuts and makes Porsche-tax spares seem as cheap as chips.
Why ever own a 12C (or any other McLaren) for the medium to long-term with this sword of Damocles hanging over your head. Question
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So I'm watching that show that wraps cars, they have a McLaren in for a make over and the battery dies whilst in the workshop. I thought the Porsche tax was taking the Mickey.
A replacement battery for a 12C is £2800 plus it needs to be done by McLaren to code the new battery in at what ever their hourly labour rate is. £2800! Surprised Surprised Surprised

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I am genuinely staggered at this figure.
Simply nuts and makes Porsche-tax spares seem as cheap as chips.
Why ever own a 12C (or any other McLaren) for the medium to long-term with this sword of Damocles hanging over your head. Question


I bet when you peel the McLaren sticker off it says.....MOLL !

McLaren is only ever a rent per lap for me and then a bit dull. The laptime fanbois love them though. Each to their own.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DRZ911 wrote:
FZP wrote:
So I'm watching that show that wraps cars, they have a McLaren in for a make over and the battery dies whilst in the workshop. I thought the Porsche tax was taking the Mickey.
A replacement battery for a 12C is £2800 plus it needs to be done by McLaren to code the new battery in at what ever their hourly labour rate is. £2800! Surprised Surprised Surprised

bonk Sad
I am genuinely staggered at this figure.
Simply nuts and makes Porsche-tax spares seem as cheap as chips.
Why ever own a 12C (or any other McLaren) for the medium to long-term with this sword of Damocles hanging over your head. Question


I bet when you peel the McLaren sticker off it says.....MOLL !

McLaren is only ever a rent per lap for me and then a bit dull. The laptime fanbois love them though. Each to their own.

I saw that too. It was an A123 Systems battery so probably the original and I'm amazed it's lasted this long to be honest - they went out of business in 2012 (subsequently purchased and resurrected). I was dealing with the world's largest battery manufacturers at the time and I had some fraught dealings with McLaren trying to broker a deal on supplying them with batteries - they were bricking it, as was my boss who had just taken delivery of a new MP4-12C having promised McLaren we would be the answer to their problems!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
So I'm watching that show that wraps cars, they have a McLaren in for a make over and the battery dies whilst in the workshop. I thought the Porsche tax was taking the Mickey.
A replacement battery for a 12C is £2800 plus it needs to be done by McLaren to code the new battery in at what ever their hourly labour rate is. £2800! Surprised Surprised Surprised


If that's true, it'll put me right off, I've noticed the 12C prices, look very tempting, but not with that kind of maintenance. However, might be something Thorney has a fix for, for a tenth of the price. Definitely a question to ask.
 
  
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Looking at Mclarens business model reminds me alot of Dell Computers. Back in the day, you could only buy directly from them. Their argument was we can service clients better because there isn't a middleman. As they grew they struggled to keep pace with demand for sales and service. Eventually they saw the light and set up an indirect channel.
McLaren are approaching that point, without an indirect model(in this case, the independent workshops and sales) to help grow their market, people will be put off buying second hand cars.
People will argue that they're only interested in new cars, but by not having a vibrant 2nd hand fan base, those buyers may never get the bug to buy new when they're in a position to.
The way Porsche set up their business model is significantly better in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread has had a proper off piste page or two! Looking at the classifieds looks like quite a lot of 991.2 GT cars of all flavours have found homes over the last month or so....unusual time of year for GT cars to be selling that well.

Be interesting to see how the market is in the spring. I think a lot depends on whether there is a second bath of GT3 RS’s....if there is we’ll see a lot of GT3’s traded in. If not...who knows !
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Collected her last Saturday and covered around 500miles, absolutely loved every moment. Feels so special, every time I stop to refuel etc people want to talk about the car and take photos.

Problem now is do I sell or keep the 997.2 turbo?


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More pics of this beast first though surely?!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is far too much debt and we are due a recession and prices will fall. However, if you think the new base Carrera will be around £100k plus options so £110k there is a floor. Why would you have a base 992 when you can have a 991.1 GT3? Many people will go for the new improved model, but there will be some who see the advantage of a drivers car.

I bought the car in the expectation prices will fall, as to me it for enjoyment. The other point is how much faster can we go? A GT3 is as fast as I would ever need.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Collected her last Saturday and covered around 500miles, absolutely loved every moment. Feels so special, every time I stop to refuel etc people want to talk about the car and take photos.

Problem now is do I sell or keep the 997.2 turbo?



Haha, very nice, drove one of those round Spa, was great fun! Enjoy in good health!
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Collected her last Saturday and covered around 500miles, absolutely loved every moment. Feels so special, every time I stop to refuel etc people want to talk about the car and take photos.

Problem now is do I sell or keep the 997.2 turbo?



Haha, very nice, drove one of those round Spa, was great fun! Enjoy in good health!


Thanks, how are you getting on with the Performante?
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You 2 should go to the V8 hotel, check out my pics from my Stuttgart thread Thumb

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You 2 should go to the V8 hotel, check out my pics from my Stuttgart thread Thumb

That Mac is STUNNING BTW worship


Thanks, also thanks for sharing those stunning photos, absolutely amazing 👍
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The Performante is going great thanks, every journey is an event!
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