HSC911 said:Just buy a Turbo :dont know:
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Yeah that ^ And then get it tuned :devil:
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HSC911 said:Just buy a Turbo :dont know:
:grin:
Magic919 said:Probably a waste of money on these NA cars. I can certainly see the gains on anything with forced induction.
Norfolk & Idea said:Phil 997 said:My 2p , Porsche will have compromised on the full potential for various reasons including having to comply with a world full of various emotions legislation plus restricting the potential of these cars so they can get max profit from the flag ship cars and their very expensive power kits. controlling air in , gas out and the ecu are very easy ways for them to restrict the full potential of these cars for all the given reasons . they have to pick a map that will give max economy as well .
So we all know that the stock ECU map is not the best that can be achieved
A good remapper will rework the ECU to your requirements, whether that is moving the power curve to give you more low-mid range ideal for a fast road car or maxing the car for track use.
I do get the argument that these cars are fast enough and well set up for most people, but there are those of us that enjoy tweaking and getting a bit more out of our cars and as I said there are decent wins by tailoring the map to make the car a more enjoyable road car. and if combined with other mods really can make a noticeable improvement.
I have my car at Hartech currently and Wayne from Chipwizards who is regarded as the best is very close to them ,so mine will be going to him for a remap after Hartech have rebuilt it. I have already discussed with him that max BHP is only bragging rights and my requirements are more about improving low-mid range and smoothing out the known flat spots that all these cars have.
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It'll be an absolute delight when you get that back. Bet you can't wait to feed in the gears on that fat torque wave, you'll love it :thumbs:
Phil 997 said:Norfolk & Idea said:Phil 997 said:My 2p , Porsche will have compromised on the full potential for various reasons including having to comply with a world full of various emotions legislation plus restricting the potential of these cars so they can get max profit from the flag ship cars and their very expensive power kits. controlling air in , gas out and the ecu are very easy ways for them to restrict the full potential of these cars for all the given reasons . they have to pick a map that will give max economy as well .
So we all know that the stock ECU map is not the best that can be achieved
A good remapper will rework the ECU to your requirements, whether that is moving the power curve to give you more low-mid range ideal for a fast road car or maxing the car for track use.
I do get the argument that these cars are fast enough and well set up for most people, but there are those of us that enjoy tweaking and getting a bit more out of our cars and as I said there are decent wins by tailoring the map to make the car a more enjoyable road car. and if combined with other mods really can make a noticeable improvement.
I have my car at Hartech currently and Wayne from Chipwizards who is regarded as the best is very close to them ,so mine will be going to him for a remap after Hartech have rebuilt it. I have already discussed with him that max BHP is only bragging rights and my requirements are more about improving low-mid range and smoothing out the known flat spots that all these cars have.
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It'll be an absolute delight when you get that back. Bet you can't wait to feed in the gears on that fat torque wave, you'll love it :thumbs:
:grin: :grin: Thats what I am expecting mate. and the guys that think it brings nothing to a NA car , thats fine let them miss out :grin: but a note to the OP you want a live remap and NOT a generic off the shelf £200 job as thats often what the guys that are disappointed have done ,. you get what you pay for like anything else. :thumb: :thumb:
What car was that on bennyy? Was it a Porsche or similar with a decent capacity? Would be good to see some context to the comment.bennyy said:Can a N/A car be improved?
A little bit but not by much, I've done it in the past and wasn't impressed TBH.
Phil 997 said:....... therefore I am expecting around the BHP of a stock GTS so 308ish with further improvement in the low mid range.
pzero said:Phil 997 said:....... therefore I am expecting around the BHP of a stock GTS so 308ish with further improvement in the low mid range.
Perhaps a typo, but a stock 997 GTS should be 408bhp.
MaxA said:All I'd say is that you need a proper custom tune by a reputable tuner with about half a day on a (good) dyno, to get the best out of what you have, but to get the best out of a tune, you need to make a couple of supporting mods first. This applies to any NA or forced induction engine and obviously there is less potential with an NA.
I've had a few cars remapped over the years (one of them twice), and I suppose I could have bought faster cars, but I enjoy the journey as well as the drive.