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cvega
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:37 pm    Post subject: 996 headlights Reply with quote

is it me, or are they really sh*t??? Compared to my seat or my nissan, that use standard halogen bulbs, they seem like candlelight.
I polished the lenses lately and that improved them, but i still find them super weak.
Any lightbulb / LED recommendations?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they the Litronics or standard halogen?

Even the Litronics in mine seem noticeably less crisp than the LED jobs on my Mercedes CLS, but still much better than the halogen ones which I had on my last 4S.

Don't bother upgrading the halogen bulb, makes only a marginal difference. Better to go with a HID upgrade (although technically an MOT failure, though the ballasts can be well hidden or simply reversed).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on what you have in there now - theres a lot of love for the Cree H7 type led's, but the NightBreakers are pretty good too.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

standard halogen lights.
I might try some nightbreakers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone recommend any good H7 fit LEDs that work well on the 996, as also find the standard bulbs poor after driving my other more modern car.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fitted HID’s to mine on high beam (4300k H7R anti glare), take a couple of seconds to warm up when first used then instant afterwards, bloody excellent.
Perfect for fast night country lane blasts, £24 a few 4 years ago.
No problems with MOT testing 2 months ago
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year I fitted new Osram D2S bulbs units to my Litronics.

I chose these ..
D2S OSRAM Night Breaker Laser Xenarc +200% Bulbs - Next Generation (Pair)
from www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk at a cost of £95 for the pair

I had read that these lamps rarely fail but their output does degraded noticeably over time. I felt mine were poor and a bit of a yellow tinge rather than a sharp white light.

What a difference when fitted and sparked up! Much better output, most definitely a far sharper, whiter look also when viewed from outside. The beam pattern was clearly more defined and just over 2 metres longer.

I would judge it a worthwhile maintenance task rather than an 'upgrade' and certainly cheaper and less MOT unfriendly in overall terms
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gone with some ebay LEDs mentioned on a few threads. I'll fit and report back when they arrive.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halogen headlight bulbs age.

These are old cars, if your bulbs are 10 years old they will be putting out much less light than when new.

Also the headlights go opaque - give them a sand back and polish.

I run Philips Xtreme Vision and have no complaints.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasz
are the Xtreme H7 a direct swap or is there wiring/mods to do?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just plugged them in.

Don't get me wrong - they are not as good as my wife's 2013 Golf headlights, but they are good enough. My driving is typically on low traffic unlit rural roads.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, i'll give them a try
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterzoom wrote:
Last year I fitted new Osram D2S bulbs units to my Litronics.

I chose these ..
D2S OSRAM Night Breaker Laser Xenarc +200% Bulbs - Next Generation (Pair)
from www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk at a cost of £95 for the pair




Just ordered a pair!

- the state of my litronic bulbs have been at the back of my mind for a while, with me frequently looking at the width of the 'rainbow' spread at the top of the beam whenever its lighting up the wall opposite my garage....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cvega wrote:
I've gone with some ebay LEDs mentioned on a few threads. I'll fit and report back when they arrive.


Thanks look forward to the update, think this is likely the way to go these days if work OK in 996 shaped lights. Will wait to I hear they are OK before buying a set.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikey P wrote:
cvega wrote:
I've gone with some ebay LEDs mentioned on a few threads. I'll fit and report back when they arrive.


Thanks look forward to the update, think this is likely the way to go these days if work OK in 996 shaped lights. Will wait to I hear they are OK before buying a set.


Yes me too.I just worry about the heat that they generate and how this can be dissipated.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Litronics and found them very dim.

Changed to OSRAM Xenarc Night Breaker Unlimited D2S and improved a bit.

Still need to sand the lenses...
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sand and polish the lights.
It made a massive difference to mine
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried LEDs in the standard lights, lovely even white light but no hotspot so no range.

With the MOT regs, I worried about after market HIDs so I bought Litronics (2nd hand) at significant expense (facelift lights are seem rarer and more expensive than the earlier lights). One is excellent, bright with good penetration, the other is white but lacks the penetration, both now have new Osram Nightbreakers. The next job is to strip them down and check the focussing lenses inside are clean. Failing that, I guess it must be the ballast, anyone worked on these?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guywilko wrote:
Sand and polish the lights.
It made a massive difference to mine


This, and clean the inside!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The nighteye LEDs are a fail. Not only they don't fit inside the housing without making holes in it, they don't come with any retaining clips.
I think i'm gonna go with new nightbreakers and some elbow grease to polish the lamps.
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