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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:40 pm    Post subject: The 718 GT4 Cometh with 3.8 NA Engine Reply with quote

https://presse.porsche.de/prod/presse_pag/PressResources.nsf/Content?ReadForm&languageversionid=938534 Question

Clubsport essentially track developed cars but I can't see the road car getting a different engine?

Now I wonder where prices of the 981 model will settle given there's no turbo in the new one Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 Vegan.

WTF?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why 718 Confused eh!

I really thought this car would be known as a 982 GT4 as that would carry on the 986/987/981 tradition of the 6 pot cars.

Surely the whole thing about the 718 moniker was the link to the famous 4 cylinder cars of the past.

Putting the 718 badge on a 6 cylinder car is a total mis-mash. nooo Thumb Down
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why 718 Confused eh!

I really thought this car would be known as a 982 GT4 as that would carry on the 986/987/981 tradition of the 6 pot cars.

Surely the whole thing about the 718 moniker was the link to the famous 4 cylinder cars of the past.

Putting the 718 badge on a 6 cylinder car is a total mis-mash. nooo Thumb Down


Agree

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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche-718-cayman-gt4-clubsport-previews-upcoming-road-car

Interesting spec though. Should help protect the residuals of the first generation GT4 Question
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agreed re the 718 badge.

however it is still a 982 - that's the official Porsche designation.

The price of the track-only cars is quite something (136k EUR + VAT for the track-day car, or 167k +VAT for the motorsport one) so I wonder what this means for pricing of the new road car.

Shame that most people who want to buy and run one of the road cars won't even get a look in in terms of being able to spec and buy a new car to their own requirements as they will mainly be allocated to people who will sell them on straight away (and hence unlikely to be well specc'ed...)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good they've kept a NA engine but it seems it's the same engine out of the old Carrera S as before. That's hugely disappointing. Surely it deserves a GT engine? Even if they used the gen.1 GT3 engine and box would have been better.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully of less interest to speculators with a regular engine - which has got to be a big plus Grin
And, given how good the 991.1 3.8 actually is, I think this will be an amazing car.
The one thing I think they really need to have on the options list though is the front axle lift system. The very low and protruding lip on the 981 model is just too easy to bash and I'm guessing this will likely be carried over - albeit restyled a bit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

......bet the road going car is a Turbo.........emissions and all that "fiddled" nonsense.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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......bet the road going car is a Turbo.........emissions and all that "fiddled" nonsense.


I doubt it will be when they have put the NA engine in the clubsport version.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a 6 speed PDK or....... a 6 speed or PDK?

Didn't know they had a 6 speed PDK Dont know
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is it a 6 speed PDK or....... a 6 speed or PDK?

Didn't know they had a 6 speed PDK Dont know


The club sport has the PDK the road car was only a manual.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isysman wrote:
Rhodris-dad wrote:
Is it a 6 speed PDK or....... a 6 speed or PDK?

Didn't know they had a 6 speed PDK Dont know


The club sport has the PDK the road car was only a manual.



Suppose I should read the specs on the website first Floor

So it is a new 6 speed PDK........probably makes sense.... with all that torque there is no need for an extra cog and you save weight.

But, in production terms i.e. costs...it seems a bit curious to have a new PDK unless they envisage using it for something else in the range or I am missing the point somewhere Dont know
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be easier to just lock out 7th.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The previous GT4 Club Sport racer also used a 6-speed PDK. So I guess this is the same one on the new car.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche-cayman-gt4-clubsport-behind-wheel-track
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Race car was/is pdk. It’s faster and a 6 speed as 7th not necessary. Previous race car was relatively slow in its class and was upgraded a few times during its life to keep up with the pack apparently.

I don’t believe race car engine guarantees a Nasp road car at all. Clearly unlikely to use the GT3 engine else they would have and curiously the latest gt4 regulations have changed do not require manufacturers to use their road going engines anymore.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 Won't Get the Clubsport's 3.8-Liter Flat-Six:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a25748846/2020-porsche-718-cayman-gt4-engine-rumors/

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are these the first mutterings of a man with Colini stick at the ready, letter of intent submitted along with a healthy deposit at the Bank of Porsche, waiting to get the nod on a new 718 GT4? Bandit
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GT4 really will be a 4(.0) then !!!!!!

That’s more like it....!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Putting a race derived engine in a road car and road car engine in a race car?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
Zingers,
Are these the first mutterings of a man with Colini stick at the ready, letter of intent submitted along with a healthy deposit at the Bank of Porsche, waiting to get the nod on a new 718 GT4? Bandit


Hand I've had the Colini stick re-calibrated given the recent sale of air cooled appear to have cooled off and dropped some dough.

The stick is poised - but it won't be for a 718 in any guise what
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