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tedzwedz
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:11 pm    Post subject: 77amp vs 85 amp battery - 996 Carrera Reply with quote

Hi all, HNY!

My battery has gone flat and the garage says its done for.

I got it from Eurocarparts 2.5 yrs ago (supposedly guaranteed for 5 years but I am speaking to them about that).

It is a Type 096 Car Battery 780CCA Bosch Silver S5 12V 77Ah

Interestingly Sam at No.5 Garage www.no5garage.co.uk in Acton/Chiswick says he recommends an 85amp battery not 77amp to give more grunt.

He says Porsche probably recommended 77amp but 85 is better.

He recommends Excell batteries too.

Do we agree with the 85amp thing vs 77amp? Any reason not too?

I've got to order one ASAP !

Best

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the battery and receipt to ECP, they will exhange it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
Take the battery and receipt to ECP, they will exhange it.

MC

Cheers yes im going to do that anyway, its more whether 85amp is better than 77amp etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More capacity won’t hurt, unless you are a weight weany. 85Ah is more capacity. Whether it also delivers more grunt is another matter.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic919 wrote:
More capacity won’t hurt, unless you are a weight weany. 85Ah is more capacity. Whether it also delivers more grunt is another matter.


Ah ok thank you!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A battery with a higher CCA (cold cranking amps) figure has more grunt.

85 vs 77 Ah will just take longer to run your battery down when you leave your headlights on.

Of course the 85 likely has a higher CCA figure than the 77 but not always.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasz wrote:
A battery with a higher CCA (cold cranking amps) figure has more grunt.

85 vs 77 Ah will just take longer to run your battery down when you leave your headlights on.

Of course the 85 likely has a higher CCA figure than the 77 but not always.


Thank you! That may have been what he meant I think!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went for one of these due to my battery going flat when left parked for prolonged periods.

https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-parts/car-electrics-and-car-lighting/electrical/car-battery/?444771106&1&cc5_998

The extra capacity has definitely helped with no problems since fitment. I used the Honey Google Chrome extension which found a discount voucher that got the price down to £115.04.

https://www.joinhoney.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glasgow 911SC wrote:
I went for one of these due to my battery going flat when left parked for prolonged periods.

https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-parts/car-electrics-and-car-lighting/electrical/car-battery/?444771106&1&cc5_998

The extra capacity has definitely helped with no problems since fitment. I used the Honey Google Chrome extension which found a discount voucher that got the price down to £115.04.

https://www.joinhoney.com/


Thank you, that's an amazing discount!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or.....


https://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l/p/-/-/-/-/?444771106&0&cc5_998

Plus code FLASH18

Makes it £104.57 delivered from the very same company.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasz wrote:
Or.....


https://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l/p/-/-/-/-/?444771106&0&cc5_998

Plus code FLASH18

Makes it £104.57 delivered from the very same company.


Nice

I'm off on holiday Saturday so had to get the garage to get it for me not long ago, sadly if I had more time I would have used this.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tayna usually beat CP4L and ECP on price. Despite what you read here CP4L and ECP are separate companies.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic919 wrote:
Tayna usually beat CP4L and ECP on price.


Bingo £84
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/exide/ea852/

Magic919 wrote:
Despite what you read here CP4L and ECP are separate companies.


Perhaps.

I've had things from cp4l come in ecp boxes, they have the same stock and same website, same SKUs.

I've returned items to CP4L for warranty and received a refund cheque from ECP.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I was bored and intrigued by ECP / CP4L.

CP4L is listed as a dormant company with this statement in their annual return:

"The company is dormant and has not traded in the period. The company was appointed as agent for Euro Car Parts Limited, with all sales and associated costs being reflected in the financial statements of the principal. There has been no other income or expenditure in the period. Any expenses have been met by the parent company."

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07596462/filing-history

So technically yes a different company, but order from CP4L and you are ordering from ECP.

Incidentally sounds like ECP are in hot water. They wewre taken over a few years back, and are now making big cuts and the founder (a Ugandan refugee) has just resigned.

https://www.am-online.com/news/supplier-news/2019/01/03/euro-car-parts-founder-sukhpal-singh-ahluwalia-resigns
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasz wrote:


Incidentally sounds like ECP are in hot water. They wewre taken over a few years back, and are now making big cuts and the founder (a Ugandan refugee) has just resigned.

https://www.am-online.com/news/supplier-news/2019/01/03/euro-car-parts-founder-sukhpal-singh-ahluwalia-resigns


And taken half of his management team with him, I read?

I think ECP has gone massively downhill in the last 5-10 years...
 
  
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