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MattyR
Hockenheim
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Location: Somewhere Nr Tunbridge Wells, Kent
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 Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:36 pm Post subject: How many manual Gen 2 3.6 Carreras?
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In anticipation of picking up my (new to me) Gen 2 C2 Carrera from the excellent Spider Detailing, I got talking with my brother today about 997.2 production numbers, rarity and so forth.
I believe I am correct in stating that some 10.5k narrowbody 3.6 Carreras were produced. What with the excellent PDK being the first choice for most people’s transmission the manual cars seem pretty thin on the ground. Apparently only around 10% made with a manual box. Can this be true? That would mean just over 1000 units. Seems petty crazy if that’s the case and rather a rare beast?..
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FZP
Paul Ricard
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Location: Cheshire
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Mot sure about actual numbers but PDK was the gearbox of choice at the time. You must also consider at the time of release, there was the financial crisis in full swing, so less cars were produced than the models before and after.
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James M-S
Österreich
Joined: 11 Apr 2017
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Location: Derbyshire
2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 2
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I’ve got one and I love it 
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MattyR
Hockenheim
Joined: 21 Sep 2015
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Location: Somewhere Nr Tunbridge Wells, Kent
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| James M-S wrote: | I’ve got one and I love it
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Looks lovely James. I like the stick-on plate. You’ve got to love the clean lines of a base Carrera.
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James M-S
Österreich
Joined: 11 Apr 2017
Posts: 932
Location: Derbyshire
2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 2
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:41 pm Post subject:
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Cheers! No rear wiper either. Only visual problem is ride height when parked next to PASM carrera S.
I’ve heard similar figures mentioned for our ‘misery spec’ Carreras before. 10% manual feels a little low though. 
Enjoy yours when you get it. It’ll sound like a sewing machine compared to your 993!
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T8
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Joined: 29 Jun 2010
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Location: Kent
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: How many manual Gen 2 3.6 Carreras?
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| MattyR wrote: |
I believe I am correct in stating that some 10.5k narrowbody 3.6 Carreras were produced. What with the excellent PDK being the first choice for most people’s transmission the manual cars seem pretty thin on the ground. Apparently only around 10% made with a manual box. Can this be true? That would mean just over 1000 units. Seems petty crazy if that’s the case and rather a rare beast?.. |
Only 7190 C2 narrow bodied Gen2 Coupes were produced but even so 1000 seems low. There's probably only that many in the UK though.
EDIT: 3908 Cabs would probably give the 10.5k you first stated.
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911UK
Porsche Community
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1997 Porsche 993 Carrera 2
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approximately 997 Gen 1 3.6 Carrera about 60% were manual
That dropped to 40% as manuals for the 3.6 Gen 2
which drops further to 20% as manuals for 991 3.4 Carrera
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moonigan
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If the data on howmanyleft is to be believed then the figure is around 600 between 2008-2011. https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?page=1&q=porsche+911
This includes
911 Carerra: 122
911 Carerra 2: 437
911 Carerra 2 Coupe: 4
My V5 lists my car as a 911 Carerra 2
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T8
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If the data on howmanyleft is to be believed then the figure is around 600 between 2008-2011.
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'Howmanyleft' is an indication of UK registrations rather than Production figures.
That 600 figure confirms that the 3.6 is probably less common than the 'S' in the UK. It doesn't show the split between manual and PDK cars though.
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jpsh120
Hockenheim
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Quick search on Pistonheads shows 13 manual Gen 2 Carrera's currently for sale.
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Hamster75
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I've got Gen 2 - 3.6 Carrera 4 Wide body with manual box & love it that way
I believe there is approx 1300 manuals worldwide total all variants from memory may have been a stat on hear at sometime.
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MattyR
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| Hamster75 wrote: | I've got Gen 2 - 3.6 Carrera 4 Wide body with manual box & love it that way
I believe there is approx 1300 manuals worldwide total all variants from memory may have been a stat on hear at sometime. |
Hamster, nice motor chap. Looks great in white 
It’s a bit mad if those production numbers are even remotely accurate. I’d love the true world wide production numbers for all 3.6 manual variants. That would be ace. I’ll have a hunt.
In the meantime; enjoy those base model Gen 2 Carreras because they seem quite rare
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T8
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I believe there is approx 1300 manuals worldwide total all variants from memory may have been a stat on hear at sometime.
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Over 76k Gen 2 cars were produced in total so the worldwide total number of manual cars would have been far greater than 1300.
I'm pretty sure that the actual number of manual and PDK cars aren't available to view anywhere. The 1300 figure you mention may have been a guess seen on here regarding the total number of UK cars.
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Phil 997
Le Mans
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2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S
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I have a manual gen2 4s. People always seem surprised it’s manual but I have no ideas of numbers produced of manual gen2 cars.
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Hamster75
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| T8 wrote: | | Hamster75 wrote: |
I believe there is approx 1300 manuals worldwide total all variants from memory may have been a stat on hear at sometime.
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Over 76k Gen 2 cars were produced in total so the worldwide total number of manual cars would have been far greater than 1300.
I'm pretty sure that the actual number of manual and PDK cars aren't available to view anywhere. The 1300 figure you mention may have been a guess seen on here regarding the total number of UK cars. |
Given that figure of 76K my figure of 1300 is probably a load of bollox 
As sure they would have made a lot more in that case, would love to know the number of UK manuals.
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Stephen603
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:56 pm Post subject:
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| Hamster75 wrote: | I've got Gen 2 - 3.6 Carrera 4 Wide body with manual box & love it that way
I believe there is approx 1300 manuals worldwide total all variants from memory may have been a stat on hear at sometime. |
Very nice I was looking for a Gen 2 C4 as well but there wasn't many on the market when I was looking.
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