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Thefinn
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Very nice job on the scuttle panel, when I pulled mine I just decided to get it hydro-dipped in carbon along with some of the frunk panels, just so I would never have to pull it again, but it is nice to get in there and give it a good clean Very Happy


I had the same panels dipped as well on my old car but it's a different theme this time. It's dangerous reading Phil's mods from his gen 1 Floor
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just found a pic of everything I had dipped.
 



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good mate, there is loads of the interior you can do as well, the instrument cluster was a personal favourite
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nik nice to see that mate , did you do the side bits and bottom section by the lock as well. I also brought a the bonnet under panel from lidliners in the states and had that dipped. oh yes and the plain matt airbox got a facelift as well Grin Grin Grin
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil, when I spoke to my dipping guy he advised me against getting the side and bottom bits dipped as he said they are more flexible and prone to cracking so he didn't want to do it, how did yours hold up?

I've had these on the car for over 2 years and still holding up well though thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Phil, when I spoke to my dipping guy he advised me against getting the side and bottom bits dipped as he said they are more flexible and prone to cracking so he didn't want to do it, how did yours hold up?

I've had these on the car for over 2 years and still holding up well though thumbsup


I had them done as well but it did start to peel around the frunk handle release so you were probably best leaving it to just the top sections
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nikos525 wrote:
Phil, when I spoke to my dipping guy he advised me against getting the side and bottom bits dipped as he said they are more flexible and prone to cracking so he didn't want to do it, how did yours hold up?

I've had these on the car for over 2 years and still holding up well though thumbsup


mine were fine but as you can see from the pics we masked the soft rubber section as your correct my guys also said it would crack . Saw my old car at simply porsche and the carbon dipped bits were still good Thumb the headlight surround is actual carbon not dip Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So like John997 i was not too happy with the positioning of the O2 sensors on my Topgear cats meaning that you have to connect them on the wrong side, so him an i have been chatting quite a bit about getting them extended. As you will see above John did most if not all of the upfront work and found the connectors to make up the cables which he made up in the photos above so fair play to him on a great solution and sharing the info with me. But going on from that i wanted to find a way to make the connections shorted and also wanted to running the wiring lower down in the engine bay i found my route an made my cables. As one of other members suggested i also found rubber boots to fit over one end of the connectors, which i attached to the connector that would be mounted lower down in the engine bay as this has a slight chance of getting wet, even though the connectors and grommets that make them up are waterproof anyway this reduces the risk again. I didn't put boots on the other end that connects back to the connector in the original location behind the light cluster as the original ones don't have them plus in the next slide you will see why you cant install them anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So in this slide you will see the route i have chosen to install the extension cables which were just under 400mm long. If i were making them again i think that i would make them slightly longer as the rubber boot took up some of the slack in the cable when you bend it back on itself so exactly 400mm end to end should be perfect if you want to follow the route i took.

As you will see in the photos i wanted to run the cables along the back of the plate that mounts the engine to its mounts as this is as close to the original locations as possible but i needed a clip to hold the wiring in place. I found these Brit clips aka cable run clips that i bought from CEF an electrical suppliers which are normally used to hammer onto a beam flange to take wiring in a commercial building, but also proved perfect to push onto the flange of the mount. I did have to open them slightly with a screwdriver to get them on as i couldn't / didn't want to start smashing a hammer around in the engine bay but they fitted perfectly and hold the cables nicely.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The next part of plan was to mount the extension connector and the O2 connector to the brackets at the top of the plate that are only there to taker the wiring for the normal O2 sensor location anyway. I have done this buy wrapping a cable tie around them as you will see in the photos. One side does look a bit tidier than the other as i am not to keen on the cross over on the RHS but i couldn't get the access i wanted to fix them any other way in the time i had as it was getting late, so next time i have the bumper off i might try and change this.

Once these were mounted the extension cable then simply runs along and clips into the original plastic brackets as the OEM cabling does and connects onto the original connector, this is why you can't have the cable boot on this end as this is too big to clip into the brackets. Once the airbox is back in you cant see any difference to the OEM set up running the cables in this location as i have.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of my mods so far seem to start with me stripping down the center console and this one is no different, but today's goal was to install some Phenix Engineering billet shifter bushings to my factory short shifter.

I wont spend to much time going through the process of the center console removal as i think i have before and there are also loads around to follow if you want but here are a few pics of the process (N.B. not all step just to ones i took photos of)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once i had the shifter out of the car i tried to remove the old bushes without damaging them using a cable tie to push all the teeth back together so that it would just push out, unfortunately this failed dismally. I did also think of trying a jubilee clip but could i find the one that's been in my kitchen for the last month, no chance so i had to give up with that as well and go onto the destroy the teeth method. As you can see from the photos i just had to pry these of the old plastic bush using a screw driver as they are quite brittle so ping off with some force.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once i had it all apart i gave everything a good clean removing all of the old lubricating compound i could get to as the new bushes came with a whole new tube so this got a good squeeze around all of the parts. I also offered up the new bushes to the shifter to check the fit and i have to say it fitted perfectly, the bushes are so snug around the two shafts of the shifter its almost edging towards tight. It was so tight in fact that i had to actually take some lube out of the both of the new bushes when fitting them back into the body of the shifter as i couldn't compress it enough to push the bush back enough to reveal the slot for the retaining clip as it wouldn't squeeze out.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this point there was a knock on the door as a delivery driver just delivered a new deck lid for a future project i have in the pipeline. As you can see the dogs helped unpack it to check for damage.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now i tested the new bushes to check for slop and i have to say there is none what so ever they are not only tight around the two shafts but they also fit to length perfectly so the shift has zero unwanted movement within the new bushes, unlike the old plastic ones which give a 1mm or so in both directions. Now that everything was tight and clipped up the assembly went back in the car ready for a test drive.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only been on a quick drive with the new bushes but the difference is noticeable straight away. I am not going to say that this is a massive change to your car such a new CATS or and 82mm plenum but for $65 i think this is a worth while mod, it just another small plus to the feel of the shifter which now has no slop other than in the gearbox itself. If anything the new bushes just made each change feel more precise which i really noticed once i started to drive with a bit more anger. I know Alex Yates is making something similar to this for the Ebay SS kits and i can see why everyone he has made them for likes them but this is another option if you don't want the shortness of the Ebay kits and just want to make the OEM shifters more precise and less sloppy.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent review mate, I can see that a metal bushed std shifter and short shifter will appeal to different people and its all better than the nylon bushes , bet your knob feels really solid when shifting now Grin Grin
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Phil 997 wrote:
Excellent review mate, I can see that a metal bushed std shifter and short shifter will appeal to different people and its all better than the nylon bushes , bet your knob feels really solid when shifting now Grin Grin


My knob is much more solid its just more precise when you slip it in and the shaft has lost all of its slob and wobble Very Happy
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Thefinn wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Excellent review mate, I can see that a metal bushed std shifter and short shifter will appeal to different people and its all better than the nylon bushes , bet your knob feels really solid when shifting now Grin Grin


My knob is much more solid its just more precise when you slip it in and the shaft has lost all of its slob and wobble Very Happy


Grin Grin just what you need when your pushing on hard Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got hold of some new rear lights this week going all red. I wish I had my exhaust rings back it looks stupid without the tips, even the postman asked what's up with the exhaust
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