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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:08 am    Post subject: 2wks in Reply with quote

So am 2wks into 911 ownership and thought I'd give an update and ask a couple of questions...

Car's getting used most days now and is great for the roads I use. It's just the right size to be hustled and yet still be practical. Can just about squeeze the whole family in it, though three up would be better than four. Fortunately my Maserati ownership made it clear that four up is really a rarity.

Interior's a lovely place to be and am very, very pleased with the colour combo. Am still experimenting with seat positions. Car has the sports seats and being a larger athlete this is making finding the perfect position tricky. Fully electric, memory seats might have been something to look for...

It handles very differently to anything else I've owned. You really can feel where the engine is. Generally very neutral and definitely well planted when accelerating out of corners. The front end is sensitive to load in the front, getting much lighter with less weight up there. It's not a car I've jumped in and felt it can be immediately pushed, which is probably a good thing. But slowly creeping up on its abilities is proving fun. It's also deceptively quick, especially in auto mode.

The different SportChrono settings make noticeable differences. I'm settling on Sport with the dampers off/soft (?) generally which works well, and whilst it makes a decent fist of things in auto mode, manual is better. It's a shame it doesn't remember which modes were previously used or that they can't be programmed into the key, but pressing the odd button isn't a hardship.

The sports exhaust is great. Nice and quiet when needed but a great noise when wanted and pressing on. Impressed with that. It's a pretty visceral experience all round, feeling very mechanical and telling you what's going on everywhere in the car which I love. Tyre noise is quite high which isn't so great. Super wide rear tyres don't help here, but I also suspect the PZeros don't either. I have a hate hate relationship with Pirellis and suspect my preferred Michelin Pilot Super Sports/4S would be much better. I'm unlikely to find out for a while as the PZeros are new. One for the future Smile

I like the PCM. Work's well without being overbearing. A few foibles with using USB sticks (would be nice not to have to search for exact terms for example) and 7 digit postcodes would be good but more from an OCD perspective... But it does what I need mostly. Importantly it doesn't detract from the car at all, which bad systems often can.

One thing I have realised is why Porsche use the buttons for the PDK. The paddle shift wheel looks and feels great, but attaching the paddles to the wheel means you can lose track of which paddle is where. That wouldn't be an issue with the buttons as you can go up and down with both. Maserati did this better - the paddles were fixed to the column and long and slender. Made more difference to usability than I thought it would. (Yes yes. You should be in the right gear before steering.... Doesn't always work like that though (large roundabouts starting in 1st for example).


I had an oil level warning come up on the car. It was reading over full. Took it back to the place who did the major and they sorted it but had some hassle getting the levels right. On getting the car home (100 miles) it had gone from being bang on max to one bar under. Definitely no signs of oil use in any way.

Have been checking the oil each time it's used for a couple of weeks now. 75% of the time it's one bar under. 20% it's been back to bang on max and 5% 2 bars under. The levels are always checked in the same place and whilst not perfectly level ground, it's not far off.

Do these typically give solid, consistent readings? Or can they fluctuate as much as indicated? (ie by a couple of bars).

I'm confident it's not using oil, and happy to get used to how it reads and therefore not be concerned about it. But if they're usually rock solid I'll look at getting the sender replaced.

Next, on going to get the oil level checked/sorted I picked up a stone chip! (These cars seem to be very susceptible to them!).

Insurance are sorting through National Windscreens. Searched on here and that put my mind at rest. Initially they noted they would use a pattern part, so said no chance. They've now sent my reg to Porsche, correct part ordered and it'll be fitted tomorrow... How do I check/tell that an original part has been fitted? Top tint, rain sensor and aerial are all easily checked, but are there any Porsche markings on the glass? (Haven' T looked at my current screen - will do tonight Smile).

Anything else I should check with the fitter?

Overall, loving the car. Glad I decided to scratch the itch and looking forward to putting plenty of miles on it Smile This forum's a great place too - prefer it to the PH section. More helpful Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great write up thumbsup

You didn't say in this post so I've just checked back to see what car you actually went for. Gen2 C4S Thumb

It sounds like you're going through a fairly typical learning curve. In 10 years time you'll still be finding more about what these fantastic cars can do.

Interesting comments re PDK buttons. I've never had any issue with Tiptronic buttons but have never liked the PDK version. I prefer PDK paddles to both.

Re the suspension settings, play about with sport and standard as much as you like ..... and then add a DSC module Smile. It WILL transform your car.

The key thing about checking oil levels is to always do it under the same circumstances. i.e same temps, level ground (same place if possible) and not to get too hung up on doing it regularly. Every few hundred miles should suffice.

Regarding the windscreen fitting I'd always take my car to a fitting centre rather than have a mobile fitter come to me. If possible I'd stay and watch whilst it's done.

Enjoy your continued 911ering. bye
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don’t worry about the oil. Only a couple of ml can change the reading by a bar. Mine fluctuates quite a bit, mostly shows one bar below full. Sometimes on full, sometimes one bar overmin.

Better to be under than overmax.

Oil reading is most accurate when it takes longer to count down the reading.

Glad you’re enjoying the car! They’re great Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great to hear your enjoying the car mate, I know its a silly question but you are checking the oil hot on the gen2 arent you whereas its cold on the gen1. each segment is only about 300ml of the 10 ltrs it holds you can only ever get about 8.5 ltrs out on an oil change ,but fluctuating between a bar is nothing to worry about Porsche say they can use up to 1ltr per 1000 miles some do some don't.

re the windscreen theres a mark on an OE one think its a triangle if I remember thats is the only way to tell. I would call the fitting co. and tell them you will send away the fitter if he has never fitted 997 glass before and you will keep doing so until they send someone who has , my guy eventually was the training manager and he traveled from london to southampton to fit it. the glass can whistle and/or leak if badly fitted .

As Terry said when you are ready to part with £1k a DSC PASM upgrade module will transform the ride .

re the PCM get a bovee1000 and fit it into the arm rest you will need a y connector if the one from the car is missing they are 30 quid from the OPC you will them be able to bluetooth stream music from your phone inc spotify premium etc.

the 7 diget postcode update is about £300 from the Porsche robbers ooops sorry OPC Grin Grin

and yes your 100% right Michelin will improve the road noise and just about everything else over the Pzeros some of us are still on MPS2 or MPSS but many have now gone to MPS4 and say they are the best of the Mitchelin tyres Thumb Thumb
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