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Robertb
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2002 Porsche 996 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOJO wrote:
This guy is bad. He has sold under several different names over the last 5 years - these are the ones I am aware of - BUCHANAN MOTOR COMPANY LTD Company number SC360692 - THE THROTTLE SHOP LTD - Company number SC440722 - CLEARDAZE LIMITED - Company number SC499102 - http://www.themodernclassiccarco.com/ - now through "Performance and Historic Classics".

Not keen on his own reputation, or developing repeat business, is he?

He sold me a totally rotten car with a dodgy MOT (which I reported) and I took judgement against him but the Sheriffs have been unable to collect because he owns no traceable assets and hides his stock. Loads of complaints, check the internet. Apparently he is not registered as a dealer so Trading Standards can't help.


I work in financial services, where we are up to our ears in regulation.

It seems odd that the motor trade, which will serve people's largest single purchase, is devoid of regulation of any sort.

To me, companies should be forced to prominently display the track record of directors or shareholders as multiple trading names, winding up etc shouts dodginess.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a new member I thought I would share my latest experience of “The modern classic car co” or West Coast Classic Car Services Ltd
Restoration, inspections, brokerage, detailing, storage.
01360-850198
I have just taken delivery from them of a 2001 996 advertised on PistonHeads and invoiced as a C4 paid a negotiated deal price of £17500.
Turns up as promised and dealt with a Stephen Lockheart who kept me well informed of all info.
Straps on the transporter had marked all the alloys to the point of going through the powder coating , pcm backlighting is not working , 1 locking wheel nut fitted with no key, aircon is blowing warm. No book pack and 1 days mot.
A good start but nothing that can’t be resolved, the best is yet to come!
Texts and emails exchanged and I’m on my way to mot, drives fine but not massively different to my old C2. Passes mot , I have a look and the engine is leaking from the rocker covers and there’s a weep from the rear main oil seal area. Accepting it’s passed and appears to be ok I’m happy with my C4 until alarm bells ring and something’s niggling me.
It’s got black brake calipers and a spare wheel fitted and nowhere is it documented as a C4! Yep after a call to clarify at Silverstone Porsche it’s a C2!!!
After a exchange of texts , emails and unanswered calls my last email was sent telling in his words
“His understanding and mine was it was 4wd, if its 2 wd then you have won a watch as
the 2 is more desirable than the 4, I have no idea who suggests otherwise? If I had known it was a 2 it would have been dearer.”
I have rejected the car and started legal proceedings and strongly advise anyone considering dealing with this company to think again.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a new member I thought I would share my latest experience of “The modern classic car co” or West Coast Classic Car Services Ltd
Restoration, inspections, brokerage, detailing, storage.
01360-850198
I have just taken delivery from them of a 2001 996 advertised on PistonHeads and invoiced as a C4 paid a negotiated deal price of £17500.
Turns up as promised and dealt with a Stephen Lockheart who kept me well informed of all info.
Straps on the transporter had marked all the alloys to the point of going through the powder coating , pcm backlighting is not working , 1 locking wheel nut fitted with no key, aircon is blowing warm. No book pack and 1 days mot.
A good start but nothing that can’t be resolved, the best is yet to come!
Texts and emails exchanged and I’m on my way to mot, drives fine but not massively different to my old C2. Passes mot , I have a look and the engine is leaking from the rocker covers and there’s a weep from the rear main oil seal area. Accepting it’s passed and appears to be ok I’m happy with my C4 until alarm bells ring and something’s niggling me.
It’s got black brake calipers and a spare wheel fitted and nowhere is it documented as a C4! Yep after a call to clarify at Silverstone Porsche it’s a C2!!!
After a exchange of texts , emails and unanswered calls my last email was sent telling in his words
“His understanding and mine was it was 4wd, if its 2 wd then you have won a watch as
the 2 is more desirable than the 4, I have no idea who suggests otherwise? If I had known it was a 2 it would have been dearer.”
I have rejected the car and started legal proceedings and strongly advise anyone considering dealing with this company to think again.
 
  
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infrasilver
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2001 Porsche 996 Targa

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its almost like they take great pleasure in ripping people off, everyone needs be to made aware and steer clear of any dealing with them.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theonestopshootingshop wrote:
I have rejected the car and started legal proceedings and strongly advise anyone considering dealing with this company to think again.


I am lost for words...but yet, people still buy from this guy Dont know

Forget the Judge

Only 1 way to deal with people like this

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barney911
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m looking for a 996 and found this car for sale privately on autotrader, looks like a great example:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201806047154541?make=PORSCHE&model=911

But, it’s also for sale on this companies website so I can’t be sure if it’s actually a private sale or if they are pretending it is because of these stories:

http://www.themodernclassiccarco.com/sales/996c4silvercarbon/salespage.html
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If in doubt....stay away
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FRZ 911
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2007 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As FZP says.

You might want to read this thread from the very beginning but a very basic check shows the same photos being used by both adverts and the contact telephone area code as being the same...................
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steer well clear of this outfit.
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1997 Porsche 993 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebay warning for this scammers

this is their 'current' ebay account using another one of Mark Heron alias's

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/modernclassiccarco/m.html


eBay Member User ID History
The list below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.

User ID: Effective Date to End Date
modernclassiccarco: 17-Jun-16 to Present
performance-classic-historic: 19-Jan-14 to 17-Jun-16
strathclydesuite: 28-Aug-12 to 19-Jan-14
s********e: 28-Aug-12 to 28-Aug-12

with the following business details

Business name: Performance & Historic
Address: Sylvester Heron
Carbeth House
killearn
Killearn
Glasgow (City of)
G63 9QB
United Kingdom
Phone: 07713862081
Email: performanceandhistoric@gmail.com
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2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ad says its got the carbon pack, I dont know much about 996 carbon but to me it looks like hydrodipped carbon dip as the weave goes in different directions and not clear to me if its C4 or a C2 Dont know
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mikeluke
Barcelona


Joined: 03 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like we can add another sweeping generalisation!

Don't buy a car from Yorkshire OR Scotland!


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LOJO
Österreich


Joined: 21 Jun 2003
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Location: Bucks


PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be very careful - if you really want to go for it then at the very least I would recommend a personal visit and full professional inspection (which he will probably refuse).

If you buy, then you have what you have - there is zero aftersales service, but he has been blocked from advertising on several websites, including this one.

Most importantly, he is not listed as a dealer with Trading Standards, and working from Scotland, so none of the distance selling and sales of goods acts apply.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The car didn’t sell on eBay and has been relisted, I decided to give it a miss.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

barney911 wrote:
The car didn’t sell on eBay and has been relisted, I decided to give it a miss.


Good for you Smile
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2007 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

barney911 wrote:
The car didn’t sell on eBay and has been relisted, I decided to give it a miss.


I think you've avoided a lot of heart ache. Good luck with the hunt. thumbsup
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2004 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barney, hold your horses a good mate of mine is about to bite the bullet and jump into a 997, he has a honest 996 Carrera 2 that he will be moving on, it would benefit him and you with a private sale, PM me and I can send you his contact numbers, he has not found a car yet but he now has the itch so is actively looking.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:31 pm    Post subject: Mark Heron of The Modern Classic Car Co Reply with quote

Now resolved

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we not get this on TV Dont know
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