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Chrali
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:02 am    Post subject: New (to me) Cayenne Owner Reply with quote

Hi All,

Somehow I went from ignoring the Cayenne, to really, really wanting one; especially when I realised I no longer wanted a wobbly L322 Range Rover, but I really only like them with the exterior goodies (roof rails, bodykit, etc) and not a black interior.

I had my heart set on a Turbo S, but viewed a 2004 Black on black turbo with 560 bhp and only 70k on the clock. It didn't turn over for 20 minutes and had an odd clacking noise on one side of the engine, which was off putting. When being driven I had to put it in comfort to quieten all the rattles and make the ride a little comfier. The owner took it up to high speed and asked me what I thought. Tbh it left me cold, and it took me several seconds to come up with a lame 'its a nice car'. I said I'd only be interested in buying it when I got a second opinion on the engine, but luckily he sold it that day.

Weeks later I viewed a 2006 Turbo S with 120k on it with full history. It started from cold without any rattles, I was so happy. Despite the miles on it, it was more comfortable even in normal with hardly any squeaks and rattles. Again I was in the passenger seat but could feel no strange clonks, or vibrations. On the downside the coolant was slightly low and the seller had no idea if the coolant pipes were replaced, but assumed not. The PCM had been replaced with a Sony headunit, so the steering wheel buttons don't work.

I wanted this one as I loved the colour (marine blue metallic), the sand beige interior , sunroof and it was in budget.

Cosmetically it has issues due to the mileage; and salt!, including some slight bubbling on the front wing and plenty of stone chips, and a scratch on the tailgate (which doesn't stay up) but certainly nothing that can't be sorted.

I had it delivered today Mr. Green

Firstly I do find it a handsome beast! Better looking than a Touareg that's for sure. OTOH I kinda like ugly cars, as my previous car was a 2004 BMW 760Li , and before that a 2006 Jeep Commander CRD (with GDE HOT tune), and even a bug-eyed-wildebeast Ford Scorpio back in the day. Much like my 760 I didnt like the facelift version, and I feel the same with the Cayenne.

Now I don't find the performance that amazing (perhaps its the mileage etc), but primarily I think its like my 760; very refined; but noisier engine. I think I expected it to be a lot rawer somehow. OTOH a 760 is low 5's to 60 as well, so its comparable performance wise.

Nearly lost a sill jacking cover as it had a lot of mud weighing it down, so cleaned them all, and gave it a quick wash and polish to find the defects. Years of road debris has scoured the underneath of the sills back to white plastic.

Garage was so tight it didn't even have any screen wash in it. I've topped that and the coolant up and will keep an eye on it. The engine oil was at max. I've taken the beauty covers off, but cannot find an angle to video to see if I have the plastic pipes.

Anyway thats me for now, many questions coming....
 



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Chrali
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct link so picture now shows.
 
  
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deMort
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the colour .. blue is my favourite .

Tailgate .. you need x4 shock / springs and not just the 2 for the tailgate .. the glass shocks are also lifters for the tailgate.

Easy enough diy job but you do need to support the tailgate when in the fully open position .

I would be very supprised if it had the original plastic pipes .. you cant see them unless the inlet mainifold is removed .

I would recomend a fault code check and perhaps a porsche indy seeing what they think of the power .. for me they are plenty quick so perhaps a turbo issue (which i hope not ) .. but get it checked for codes first i think .

If your a keen diyer ? front carpets up just to make sure they are not damp .. lots of wiring there to the point i can show you some scary pictures of what water does , actually im going to anyways ..

front drain bungs should have been removed by now .. just behind the front arch liner at the back of the shock each side .. youll need a mirror .. black bung basically .
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Chrali
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. I love the colour too, really changes in the sunlight.

I'm not implying the car isn't fast. It is, the performance is effortless, and the engine snarled up the rev range happily enough to put a smile on my face tonight. I just expected a twin turbo to 'feel' significantly different to my n/a 760, but they both have that 'where have the other cars gone ability' Wink

I'm a fairly keen diyer; you cannot avoid it running ageing luxury cars!

Thanks for the horrible images, the drain holes will be my next check. I am surprised how corroded these cars can get and would like to avoid the same happening to mine!

I'm not so sure the coolant pipes are done; nor drain bungs removed, as the brakes are pretty pitted and been an advisory on and off for a few years, so as much as its been fully 'serviced' we're defo into the realm of deferred maintenance. I couldn't really get a clear look shooting video from my mobile by the firewall, so will get a cheap android endoscope to find out about the pipes, the rear beauty panel was missing a clip, so someones been in there. I couldn't see any leaks from the coolant reservoir, or anywhere around the engine, so I'll just monitor how quickly coolant is disappearing.

The biggest immediate issue not noticed on the test drive is that, at some point the transmission gear lights are all lit. Possibilities seem to range from the shifter, to ATF travelling up the wiring, so I need to get it to a specialist if cheaper diag kit cannot report on the transmission.
 



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the cayenne turbo S club,
Your coolant pipes will have been done 100%
The leak, if you have one is usually the expansion tank that cracks,
Save your pennies for the front discs they are mucho expensive,
Common probs are propshaft bearing, camshaft cover oil leaks, tailgate struts,
Turbos that start to whistle, (easy fix) and brittle air hoses on the brake assist system,
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waz .. love the Avatar Thumb

OP .. get the tiptronic oil and filter changed .. its probably never been done .

Check the driveshaft center bearing for play .. another common fault .
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like the look of the early Cayenne and as with many Porsche models they grow into their looks.Well done you. thumbsup
 
  
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Chrali
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Location: Norfolk


PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kas750 Cheers, I feel the same way.

deMort I assume the centre bearing is ok for the moment as there are no odd noises, or vibrations. Absolutely will get the transmission serviced, just waiting until my iCarsoft960 is delivered next week so I can plug it in and see what it reports and then I'll see if the trader I bought the car from will do. I say to my wife that every used car was for sale for a reason, you just gotta found out what that is, in this case I reckon its the trans fault. To be honest if its a few hundred quid its not worth the palaver transporting it back down south.

Waz I'd love to hope they've been done but sods law and all that, so hopefully I'll know when I get the endoscope. I cant see any leaks on the expansion tank, so nothing to lose by starting with a new expansion cap. Even if they have, I'll bet the coolant T's haven't!

I've done 80 miles of motorway speeds and the coolant hasn't significantly dropped (yet), so I'll focus on the transmission right now. I usually use a specialist in Great Yarmouth, but want to get the codes read first. When I got my 760 transmission seals,fluids and filters refreshed I went genuine parts from ZF, do you recommend genuine parts for the Cayenne, as I've read that Toyota fluid is identical to the Porsche spec; which makes sense to me being a Japanese transmission.

I knew the brake prices are ludicrous going in, but seen Pagid front disks for £540 which is £200 better than Porsche, rears are cheap enough though. Tempting to wonder if Porsche just added them to justify the price bump for the Turbo S, or whether the Turbo brakes are that marginal that less than 100 bhp extra would overwhelm them.

Thanks for the welcome guys.
 



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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great car lad, I love the aluminium sport pack, same as mine . Here are some of my car during a roadtrip to Donegal, Ireland last week
 



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cayenne007 wrote:
great car lad, I love the aluminium sport pack, same as mine . Here are some of my car during a roadtrip to Donegal, Ireland last week


Lovely photos the landscape and the car ... very arty thumbsup
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