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Suspension top mounts -,what bits will I need?

Grey996 said:
Leon1davies said:
Just done this and advice from OPC was the actual top mount housing very rarely needs replacing...its the bearing, rubber, metal plates and washers that that need changing.


http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod71137/Shock-Absorber-Mounting-Overhaul-Kit-FRONT-Porsche-996-C2/

I know its pricey but when I took my old one off I could see why they recommend replacing it all. The bearing element just fell apart in my hands...rubber didn't look too bad and nor did the washers.

Thanks, i'll hold off on the top mounts then, hopefully they'll be ok. That kit seems very expensive, i'll see if I can find just the bearing some where.

Is the following what you are after?

www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod7031/Gro...oove-Ball-Bearing--9963435150597---986---987/

note: always worth using the part number to check price and availability with an OPC....
 
Fastlane said:
peterzoom said:
wasz said:
For a c2 use Sachs brand top mounts, they are OE mine came with Porsche number ground off.

For C4 c4s use 997 4wd top mounts as they are much cheaper for some reason.

Bearings from OPC I'd you need ask for a discount.

I recoated all my washers and hatdware and re used.

Also try autodoc for a European choice of parts

Very interesting, do you mind me asking how do you know that the 997 mounts fit the c4 996?

I read all the threads about using 997 top mounts and the consensus from those who know (i.e. the Porsche Specialists) seemed to be was that they are different - if they weren't they would have the same part number from Porsche - the angle that the damper is held is slightly different and this will therefore affect the amount of adjustment available on the front suspension. Given the extra cost of the correct ones if you buy Hamburg (c.£80 for both) and the cost of the work involved in changing them again if they are wrong, as well as setting up the suspension correctly afterwards, then I didn't think it was worth the risk.

I am not sure, but has anybody asked Centre Gravity?

The difference indeed being that you will have less adjustment using the 997 ones on the 996 but if you are running standard specs this shouldn't be a problem. The cheaper aftermarket ones (Hamburg etc) aren't available for the 4/4S/T or at least they weren't when I last checked. Only options were genuine Porsche either 996 or 997 and for some reason the 996 ones are crazy money.
 
Stoo.c said:
The cheaper aftermarket ones (Hamburg etc) aren't available for the 4/4S/T or at least they weren't when I last checked. Only options were genuine Porsche either 996 or 997 and for some reason the 996 ones are crazy money.

Aftermarket ones are available (and have been for some time as far as I know) as I said above, at about £130 each. These fit both standard and M030 (-10mm, which I have) suspension. Only the X74 cars (-30mm from standard) have different top mounts again which are, as you say, crazy money and seem to only be available from Porsche. Lots of sites (Design911 for one) seemingly incorrectly confuse the M030 and X74 and say the standard top mounts won't fit M030, which they do.
 
demon said:
Grey996 said:
Leon1davies said:
Just done this and advice from OPC was the actual top mount housing very rarely needs replacing...its the bearing, rubber, metal plates and washers that that need changing.


http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod71137/Shock-Absorber-Mounting-Overhaul-Kit-FRONT-Porsche-996-C2/

I know its pricey but when I took my old one off I could see why they recommend replacing it all. The bearing element just fell apart in my hands...rubber didn't look too bad and nor did the washers.

Thanks, i'll hold off on the top mounts then, hopefully they'll be ok. That kit seems very expensive, i'll see if I can find just the bearing some where.

Is the following what you are after?

www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod7031/Gro...oove-Ball-Bearing--9963435150597---986---987/

note: always worth using the part number to check price and availability with an OPC....

Perfect, thank you 😊
 
I didn't notice any 996 part numbers on them, boxes they were in were plain too...

Fastlane said:
upforit365 said:
I used the VM top mounts sold by ECP on my turbo. No problems thus far and all the creaking noises that we're there before are gone.

Apparently "VM" means vehicle manufacturer - I only found this out last week. Did they have a 996 part number n them?
 
demon said:
Grey996 said:
Leon1davies said:
Just done this and advice from OPC was the actual top mount housing very rarely needs replacing...its the bearing, rubber, metal plates and washers that that need changing.


http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod71137/Shock-Absorber-Mounting-Overhaul-Kit-FRONT-Porsche-996-C2/

I know its pricey but when I took my old one off I could see why they recommend replacing it all. The bearing element just fell apart in my hands...rubber didn't look too bad and nor did the washers.

Thanks, i'll hold off on the top mounts then, hopefully they'll be ok. That kit seems very expensive, i'll see if I can find just the bearing some where.

Is the following what you are after?

www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod7031/Gro...oove-Ball-Bearing--9963435150597---986---987/

note: always worth using the part number to check price and availability with an OPC....


Thanks for that. :thumb:

Doing mine over the next month or so and was just going to strip, clean and regrease but at £30 a pop it's a no brainer.
 
adamw said:
Fastlane said:
adamw said:
I need to do this on my turbo real soon and have been quoted circa £1200 to supply and fit new OEM top mounts and also do a wheel align after.

Just out of interest, can anyone recommend alternative after market mounts that are just as good (if not better) than OEM but maybe a little cheaper :lol:

The C4, C4S and turbo all share the same top mounts -I have a C4. I was quoted £1625 by OPC Exeter to replace mine at my last service. I sourced them via https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-...en:996&hash=item4d64c160af:g:0hUAAOSwKUNZ1qfa

I rang them up and it turns out that Spider Performance is owned by Eporsche who are a well respected Porsche specialist. Dean, one of the directors there, assured me that thee were good quality and did me a deal over the phone - £320 including the Porsche bump stops (as mine were knackered and OPC Exeter quoted me £520!) I also rang Williams Crawford in Plymouth and they quoted £1200 including the Hamburg top mounts and bearings and again said they were good. In the end I got my local classic car garage to fit them for £360. Just need to have an alignment done now.

Both ECP and Carparts4less also stock them at a similar price when on deal.

Many thanks - that's very helpful indeed :thumbs:

Many thanks for this
I ended up ordering these mounts and bearings from Spider Performance\Eporsche and will be getting them fitted over the next couple to weeks along with a wheel alignment :thumb:
 
adamw said:
Many thanks for this
I ended up ordering these mounts and bearings from Spider Performance\Eporsche and will be getting them fitted over the next couple to weeks along with a wheel alignment :thumb:

Glad you got it sorted Adam.

Cheers,

Tim.
 
wasz said:
For a c2 use Sachs brand top mounts, they are OE mine came with Porsche number ground off.

For C4 c4s use 997 4wd top mounts as they are much cheaper for some reason.

Bearings from OPC I'd you need ask for a discount.

I recoated all my washers and hatdware and re used.

Also try autodoc for a European choice of parts

So do these Sachs top mounts come complete with the bearings?
I have m030 spec stuff and I want to freshen some of it.
 

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