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Does the new AM Vantage cut the mustard and become a viable alternative to a 911 ?
Yes, finally a Vantage which I would want before a 911
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No, not really there yet
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 33%  [ 3 ]
Possibly, once back-to-back comparisons can be made
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DRZ911
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:42 pm    Post subject: New Aston Martin Vantage Reply with quote

Has the new AM Vantage finally matched the 911 Question

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/aston-martin/aston-martin-vantage-review-imperfect-british-gem/
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having owned an AM immaterial of how pretty they are , they are a long way off the reliability and sturdeness of a 911 , I found it to be far more Italian in its usability. Not sure I would go back there after experiencing the total usability of a 911.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An essential thing about the 911 for me has always been the 2+2 seating in a proper sports car shape.

Only Lotus seem to have gathered that with the Evora.

I'm oot.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I considered an AM prior to my 911 purchase because they are beautiful looking cars. However, I had concerns about reliability and overall quality of the product. I see a few on a regular basis and they all have corroded door mirror stems and wheels. It made me question about the quality of unseen items.

I also subsequently spoke to someone “in the know” who said that AM were aware of potential corrosion issues but selected the cheaper manufacturing method/metal because they felt an AM buyer should be able to afford replacements as and when. I guess there might also have been budget issues for AM at the time to. That not withstanding it clearly wasn’t designed to be a daily.

I like the look of the new Vantage but for me it has three problems:
1) Mercedes engine
2) Auto only
3) Two seater
4) Turbo charged
5) Price point

Actually I have 5 problems Very Happy

Despite all that I still have a hankering but it would need to be V12 and manual. Trouble is the price has gone the way of Porsche GT products..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cameo wrote:
I considered an AM prior to my 911 purchase because they are beautiful looking cars. However, I had concerns about reliability and overall quality of the product. I see a few on a regular basis and they all have corroded door mirror stems and wheels. It made me question about the quality of unseen items.

I also subsequently spoke to someone “in the know” who said that AM were aware of potential corrosion issues but selected the cheaper manufacturing method/metal because they felt an AM buyer should be able to afford replacements as and when. I guess there might also have been budget issues for AM at the time to. That not withstanding it clearly wasn’t designed to be a daily.

I like the look of the new Vantage but for me it has three problems:
1) Mercedes engine
2) Auto only
3) Two seater
4) Turbo charged
5) Price point

Actually I have 5 problems Very Happy

Despite all that I still have a hankering but it would need to be V12 and manual. Trouble is the price has gone the way of Porsche GT products..


You can buy my DB9 if you like, it doesn't have any of those 5 problems.
I must admit those issues do spoil it for me too.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cameo wrote:


I like the look of the new Vantage but for me it has three problems:
1) Mercedes engine


Have you driven a Mercedes with that engine? It is one hell of a powerplant. Frankly it knocks the turbo flat six into a cocked hat for charisma.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
Cameo wrote:


I like the look of the new Vantage but for me it has three problems:
1) Mercedes engine


Have you driven a Mercedes with that engine? It is one hell of a powerplant. Frankly it knocks the turbo flat six into a cocked hat for charisma.


Sorry, I should have been more specific. I’ve no doubt it’s great (and all the reviews say it is) but if I was buying an Aston Martin, and paying for that privilege, I’d want an Aston Martin power plant.

Whether it’s more “charismatic” is a subjective matter Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cameo wrote:
Robertb wrote:
Cameo wrote:


I like the look of the new Vantage but for me it has three problems:
1) Mercedes engine


Have you driven a Mercedes with that engine? It is one hell of a powerplant. Frankly it knocks the turbo flat six into a cocked hat for charisma.


Sorry, I should have been more specific. I’ve no doubt it’s great (and all the reviews say it is) but if I was buying an Aston Martin, and paying for that privilege, I’d want an Aston Martin power plant.

Whether it’s more “charismatic” is a subjective matter Wink


Fair point. I had my mind comprehensively blown by a go in an AMG GT-S! I'd imagine that the engine has been reworked for Aston, much as the JLR V8 was before, I'm sure it would feel special... gets good reviews in the DB11.
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