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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Phil,

I am looking for black spacers, purley so they match the rear of the turbo wheel which are coloured black, so in theroy a nice seemless joint to the grey hubs on the disc's.

There are loads of spacers out there but it just getting the write ones, based on what peeps are talking about then will go with 7mm front and 15mm rear, my biggest conerns is MoT. Yeap take them off before you go but are these or are these a possible MoT failure - I suppose it depends how far they potrude out really...

Again the front's, the TPI's dont have shims on so it relies on the OEM hub to support. I havent measure the depth but this would be a concern for sure.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi John , I have never had an MOT issue with spacers fitted, the key is keeping it flush with the lip of the arch I am confident on a widebody car you will have not issues with 15mm rears , I agree with your thoughts on the front hub and its very hard to find a black 7mm spacer with spigots most are just a shim in which case I think you would be happier fitting a black 5mm shim on the fronts
5mm is fine and is the size Porsche actually sell and recommend at vast cost lol
hope that helps mate ,if you need any more info let me know Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
I am confident on a widebody car you will have not issues with 15mm rears


What about NBs??
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheCock wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
I am confident on a widebody car you will have not issues with 15mm rears


What about NBs??


Yes mate due to the offsets being different on a wide and narrow body and the NB running 295 over the WB 305 tyres the 15mm will also be fine on a NB car Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
TheCock wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
I am confident on a widebody car you will have not issues with 15mm rears


What about NBs??


Yes mate due to the offsets being different on a wide and narrow body and the NB running 295 over the WB 305 tyres the 15mm will also be fine on a NB car Thumb


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Link for spacers I bought, hubcentric type and available silver or black anodised, I have been really pleased with mine, and after much research these are top quality at a fraction of the price some others charge.
http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diverzeusy wrote:
Link for spacers I bought, hubcentric type and available silver or black anodised, I have been really pleased with mine, and after much research these are top quality at a fraction of the price some others charge.
http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com


Good find Paul looks like they may do shims with hub spigots down to 3mm in black Thumb Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep good find there mate, just had a quick look Thumb

Did you get the longer bolts and locking bolts from them too as cannot see them listed.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John997 wrote:
Yep good find there mate, just had a quick look Thumb

Did you get the longer bolts and locking bolts from them too as cannot see them listed.

Hi John
I sent you a pm with loads of information, the wheel studs I purchased from eBay item number ,320956496526.
The seller also has longer studs in various quantity etc, very good quality and 18 months several track day later no complaints ๐Ÿ‘
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Paul
Thumb Thumb

diverzeusy wrote:
John997 wrote:
Yep good find there mate, just had a quick look Thumb

Did you get the longer bolts and locking bolts from them too as cannot see them listed.

Hi John
I sent you a pm with loads of information, the wheel studs I purchased from eBay item number ,320956496526.
The seller also has longer studs in various quantity etc, very good quality and 18 months several track day later no complaints ๐Ÿ‘
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good morning all,

I emailed the wheels spacers site to ask for links to the parts i need. I'm looking for 7mm front and 15mm rear on a NB car with Carrera SII wheels, but found all the various spacer options a bit overwhelming and wasn't confident in choosing the correct/best ones. Hopefully the links below will help someone else in my situation.

John at wheelspacers kindly provided links to what i need. I wondered if you could cast an eye over them and just give your expert opinion on them and if it looks like everything required?. I would be much appreciated!.

fronts 7mm are
http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com/product_info.php?k=Sp&info=p1702_ALU%20spacer%20%20%207mm.html&cat=c311_Porsche.html&bezeichnung=911%20(997)%20Turbo%20und%20GT2&typ=997

longer bolts black 2pc
http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com/product_info.php?k=Sp&info=p393280_Schraube%20f%FCr%20Porsche%20M14x1,5.html&cat=&bezeichnung=&typ=

Rear 15mm

http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com/product_info.php?k=Sp&info=p1365_ALU%20spacer%20%20%2015mm.html&cat=c311_Porsche.html&bezeichnung=911%20(997)%20GT3&typ=997


longer bolts black 2pc

http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com/product_info.php?k=Sp&info=p393291_Schraube%20f%FCr%20Porsche%20M14x1,5.html&cat=&bezeichnung=&typ=


The only thing that he didn't supply initially were links to new longer locking nuts/bolts, when i followed up to ask he sent the below. Does anyone have an alternative that doesn't require cutting the them to length?

'Ok didnt know you wanted locks, here
You need two different length so I would get the factory to machine 2 for you, picture attached

http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com/product_info.php?k=Sp&info=p391310_Felgenschloss%20Typ%20SICUSTAR.html&cat=&bezeichnung=&typ='
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi roocat,
The spacers look good, 5x130 for the hole spacing and 15/7 for the thickness.
Wheel studs I found confusing on the site and received wrong ones so returned for full refund, I then found these on eBay,
eBay item number ,320956496526
If you search that sellers site all the different lengths are available, and most importantly the correct ball/dome washer that fits the wheel perfectly, these where also a great price and quality Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diverzeusy wrote:
Hi roocat,
The spacers look good, 5x130 for the hole spacing and 15/7 for the thickness.
Wheel studs I found confusing on the site and received wrong ones so returned for full refund, I then found these on eBay,
eBay item number ,320956496526
If you search that sellers site all the different lengths are available, and most importantly the correct ball/dome washer that fits the wheel perfectly, these where also a great price and quality Thumb


thanks for the info.

Am i right in saying i need 50mm (thread) bolts for the fronts and 60mm for the rears?

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John997
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya, the links below are what i found with some searching so good news we both came up with the same Thumb

What I did find confusing are the bolts, coudnt make out the site etc... looks like Paul mentions same as well. I want black ones, yes you can spray them but not sure about term durability.

The eBay link are good value, well compared to Wheels UK

roocat wrote:
Good morning all,

I emailed the wheels spacers site to ask for links to the parts i need. I'm looking for 7mm front and 15mm rear on a NB car with Carrera SII wheels, but found all the various spacer options a bit overwhelming and wasn't confident in choosing the correct/best ones. Hopefully the links below will help someone else in my situation.

John at wheelspacers kindly provided links to what i need. I wondered if you could cast an eye over them and just give your expert opinion on them and if it looks like everything required?. I would be much appreciated!.

fronts 7mm are
http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com/product_info.php?k=Sp&info=p1702_ALU%20spacer%20%20%207mm.html&cat=c311_Porsche.html&bezeichnung=911%20(997)%20Turbo%20und%20GT2&typ=997

longer bolts black 2pc
http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com/product_info.php?k=Sp&info=p393280_Schraube%20f%FCr%20Porsche%20M14x1,5.html&cat=&bezeichnung=&typ=

Rear 15mm

http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com/product_info.php?k=Sp&info=p1365_ALU%20spacer%20%20%2015mm.html&cat=c311_Porsche.html&bezeichnung=911%20(997)%20GT3&typ=997


longer bolts black 2pc

http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com/product_info.php?k=Sp&info=p393291_Schraube%20f%FCr%20Porsche%20M14x1,5.html&cat=&bezeichnung=&typ=


The only thing that he didn't supply initially were links to new longer locking nuts/bolts, when i followed up to ask he sent the below. Does anyone have an alternative that doesn't require cutting the them to length?

'Ok didnt know you wanted locks, here
You need two different length so I would get the factory to machine 2 for you, picture attached

http://www.wheelspacers.uk.com/product_info.php?k=Sp&info=p391310_Felgenschloss%20Typ%20SICUSTAR.html&cat=&bezeichnung=&typ='
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had my MOT done last week with the spacers on, mentioned it to the tester and he said they were absolutely fine, 7/F 15/R.
Bought mine off Fleabay got all the bolts, locking bolts and spacers for very little money, they fit perfect and no wobble at all. They are polished alloy but I dare say could be painted.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John997 wrote:


The eBay link are good value, well compared to Wheels UK



What length bolts did you order for front and back?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This picture may be of use, remember you need the studs to be longer by the same thickness of any spacer used so 15mm spacer would need a stud 15/17mm longer than usual ๐Ÿ‘
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diverzeusy wrote:
This picture may be of use, remember you need the studs to be longer by the same thickness of any spacer used so 15mm spacer would need a stud 15/17mm longer than usual ๐Ÿ‘


I had to use 18mm bolts when fitting 15mm spacers no problems and luckily were also fine and reused when changing to 17mm spacers only done as I have a NB offset alloys on my WB car doing that plus the increase from 295 to 305 tyres got it right for me Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
diverzeusy wrote:
This picture may be of use, remember you need the studs to be longer by the same thickness of any spacer used so 15mm spacer would need a stud 15/17mm longer than usual ๐Ÿ‘


I had to use 18mm bolts when fitting 15mm spacers no problems and luckily were also fine and reused when changing to 17mm spacers only done as I have a NB offset alloys on my WB car doing that plus the increase from 295 to 305 tyres got it right for me Thumb

Yeah Phil, 18mm or even 19mm extra length is ok, with 15mm spacers, but make sure that the wheel spins freely and the studs have not protruded through the back, and catching on something.if they do they can be cut down to required length, but I found the before mentioned Ebay Sellar of stud's had a good range of lengths in Porsche fitment
And don't be tempted to go shorter as there would not be enough thread's to hold the wheel on as intended Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diverzeusy wrote:
This picture may be of use, remember you need the studs to be longer by the same thickness of any spacer used so 15mm spacer would need a stud 15/17mm longer than usual ๐Ÿ‘


Thanks. Yeah funnily enough that was the picture i was using to work out what i needed. Still found it confusing though!.
That pic says 42mm is standard, other forums say 45mm, and the link on eBay says 28mm. I think the eBay one is talking about the thread length though whereas that pic must be the length of the whole bolt?. I think i'm getting there Smile

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