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asterix_the_gaul
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may have missed it through the thread but where did you get the airbag trimmed or was that the previous owner? Has it been disabled or is there a cut in the fabric for the case to split for airbag deployment should the worst happen?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

The airbag was retrimmed by Cobra Seats. I have no idea if there is a cut in the back of the fabric, there certainly isn't one in the front that i can see. Lets just hope i never get to find out Confused

Just actually been to have a look and can't see any score lines as if its been cut on the underside. You think the bag wont deploy properly ???


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know! I only asked as I had my steering wheel retrimmed and wanted airbag done also but they didn't do airbags and remarked about The double stitching on the oem leather ones is because that's where the break points are for the airbag and the leather is cut on the stitching line.. Maybe it's different for fabric?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's something i'll have to get checked out.

Only two ways to go i guess, new air bag, or Cup car steering wheel and do away with it all together.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After more searching for my retrim wants I found These guys who retrim airbags and garentee them to deploy correctly, so they might know more about it¿?http://www.theseatsurgeons.co.uk/about-us/
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only just caught up on this, excellent work!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an amazing thread. Congratulations on your ability and tenacity despite all the problems that have occurred. You noted in February '17 that you had spent almost the purchase price on work at that point.....it must be that sort of money again ......albeit you now have the car you always wanted. It makes me think that there is no such thing as an inexpensive 996 despite what appears to be on the market. Someone mentioned that £20k was the price of a good C2 one way or the other but it now appears that this might be a very conservative figure. What do others think?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would agree with that, if you want the car to be faultless you are looking at an easy 20k.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inclined to agree that £20k is the minimum for a reasonably well (not fully) sorted 996...a genuine minter with no issues at all will be a fair bit more than this...
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuart wrote:
Only just caught up on this, excellent work!
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alfazagato wrote:
What an amazing thread. Congratulations on your ability and tenacity despite all the problems that have occurred. You noted in February '17 that you had spent almost the purchase price on work at that point.....it must be that sort of money again ......albeit you now have the car you always wanted. It makes me think that there is no such thing as an inexpensive 996 despite what appears to be on the market. Someone mentioned that £20k was the price of a good C2 one way or the other but it now appears that this might be a very conservative figure. What do others think?



@alfazagato,

Thanks Mate, things always go wrong for me so starting to get used to it now. puh

To date the car now stands me nearly £33k, this is everything though, Parts, servicing and upgrades etc.

My car still isn't how it should be, i'm hoping by the end of this year it will be.

The biggest thing left to do is a bit paintwork, both front wings need done because of a bit pebble dashing from the front wheels, front bumper has some small stone chipping and there is a scratch on the o/s rear quarter that needs attention, so all this being done i'll be into the car for near enough £35k. It just depends what different peoples idea of "sorted" is, Mark and myself have done a whole load of work on our cars which has saved us a LOT of money so when you think about that, i'd be well over the £40k mark.


A lot of the money I've spent was for "upgrades" that I wanted for the car, seats, cage, harnesses, suspension etc, so if you take all that off then the cost would be significantly lower, I think £20k for these cars is a fair price. Obviously more would be good Grin but I think it will be a while before these cars are worth a whole lot more....

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dotting for interest. Hi again Craig Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TopGearBridport wrote:
Dotting for interest. Hi again Craig Smile




Hey Alex..... Hows it going mate ???

As you might have seen, some of your exhaust parts are on, looking and sounding excellent worship

I'm getting the manifolds fitted in the next month or so then i'll send those videos through i promised you. Cant wait to hear it with the full system on.


Thanks again for all your help !! Much appreciated !! thumbsup

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,


This post will be mostly picture heavy as Mark covered it all in detail so he’s made it easy for me.


Having sourced all the radiators (water and air con) throughout the year it was time to get them fitted.


It was mentioned to me that my air con wouldn’t gas up because the rads were in such bad shape. I’d also noticed that when in traffic my car would get quite warm even though the fans were working fine, so thought I’d do the lot while in there. Also while everything was off it was time to do a little rust control, noting was bad, just surface rust from stone chipping off the wheels.


First off was getting it lifted at the front so you don’t lose all the water from the engine, then stripping the front end, wheels, side repeaters, bumper, head lights, front arch liners etc.



















Then front air ducts to get to the rads, then remove the air con rads from the water rads.









There was a lot of leaves, grass and dirt behind them that you couldn’t see, also most of the air ways were blocked with dirt so no wonder it struggled when in traffic.


The front horn looking a little sorry for itself.







My car had already had new rads in 2008 when Mark Dunsfold rebuilt it, so most of the Porsche hose clips were already changed for Jubilee clips.


Then it was to remove both front rad packs for strip down. This revealed the whole front end so it could be cleaned out properly.











You can see the surface rust on the front tub seams, and other areas, this is one of the reasons I decided to do this, it’s not bad at all but left for too long and could get very bad.













So now everything is stripped out and access is easy, time for Mark to get busy with his wire wheels.

























Because I would be fitting new suspension we just cleaned up around the top mounts as best we could then would finish the job properly once I’d got the Kw’s out the way.


After all the wire brushing was done, we applied Hammerite Rust Treatment to it to get rid of the rust, this takes a few applications for it to do its job properly, then wash it all off for painting. Mark used the Hammerite Rust primer on his, I went in a different direction and went for silver POR15. I’d heard this was really good and didn’t need an undercoat so would save a bit time.













I’d sent all brackets, pipes and protection plates away for powder coat.















Ordered a load of overpriced goodies from Porsche, Hoses, clips, cable wraps etc.















Cleaned up all the plastic shrouds and coated them with wet and black tyre shine.











Cleaned up and repainted the horns.











All the wire brushing was now done and washed down so all ready for paint.
It was now time to mask all the parts that we didn’t want paint to drip on as the POR15 seems very watery. Mark took extra care to cover his soon to be adopted KW’s !!











So we applied the POR15 (horrible stuff if I’m honest). The arches did come up nice as they should with new paint, but I feel that doing it marks way would have been better, undercoat then silver paint. But hey, it’s only in the arches and they will never be to any sort of body work quality and they were now future proofed. As before, we just painted around the top mounts until I could get access when suspension was out the way.



























While the paint was drying we retreated into marks house to build up the rad packs for the following week.















Through the week Mark applied a second coat of POR15 so it had a good protection, Thanks for that by the way.



I’ve got to say, the finished article looked excellent, it’s not till you compare the before and after pics that you see the difference it’s made.

















So now it’s time to build it back up, rad packs on.









Pipework with new body clips all round and protection plates fitted

















Centre Rad fitted, just for show but looks a hell of a lot better than just seeing the dirty front tub.







Air con pipework connected back up using genuine seals.







Back on its wheels now and just bumper, head lights and a few other bits to fit to get it back to it’s best, but first was to pull it outside and start it up to check for leaks and to prime it through. I’d heard these were hard to do. The water is fed to the off side rad first then to the near side, so all I done was to remove the small overflow pipe at the top of the near side rad. You can feel the air coming out as the water fills the system, so once water started coming out the overflow nipple I just reconnected the pipe and left it running to get up to temperature so the thermostat would open.











The horns back on.







We saved as much of the antifreeze as we could, not to use it again, but so that we knew how much had come out and how much I’d need to get back in. This was about 4.5 litres and I’d previously bought a 5 litre pre mixed from Euro Car Parts. I got the whole 5 litres in and it put it perfectly on the maximum line, so to me that meant that I’d got all the air out. Happy days.


No leaks, so time to put it back in the garage and put the plastic air shrouds back on.









Then just the other little pieces like side repeaters, arch liners, head lights etc.


So that’s that, a job well done. For once something went right with no issues at all. I’m guessing that it’s because I wasn’t relying on anyone else’s workmanship to get the job done.

































I’d sent my rear callipers away for refurbishment, powder coat, seals etc. I decided to purchase a new set of braided brake lines as you might see from some of the pics that mine are rusty coloured under the plastic sleeve and look terrible. As I’d had the rear callipers off anyway I replaced the rear lines first and will do the fronts sometime before the summer, once I find a bit more time.













I’d forgotten about the brackets on the back of the rear callipers when I sent everything off for powder coat so I had to just paint these myself. Not the best, but a hell of a lot better than the rusty mess they were.















So, that is pretty much it……..


Car back on its wheels and all back together, only the rear calliper decals to fit to finish that project off, I’d forgot to bring them with me so I fitted these when I got the car back to my house.











Next stop, Ohlins !!!!!



Thanks for reading guys, not much left to do now.

Take it easy

Craig
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks great!

POR15 is hard to apply neatly TBH

And then you need to overcoat the second coat when its tacky which makes it worse.

Any dirt at all and it will look ugly. However it dries rock hard and clings like nothing else to previously rusted steel. Way better than primer+top coat. Not so good on new metal or over existing paint.

I've used it all over my car on things you can't see, OK they don't look perfect but they are well protected. I think its better than powder coat.

Just don't get any on your hands! and you need to use the whole little tin in one go - it reacts with moisture in the air so once its opened, its done.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig,

I just wanted to say what fantastic thread this is! It's a great car with a fantastic story and I always enjoy reading your latest update. I read this thread many times just before I bought my 996 last year - so it is partly your fault that I have my 996 sitting in my garage!Grin

I look forward to seeing your update on the Ohlins.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers,

Tim. thumbsup
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great post and thread Craig,
Read this with real interest as I recently went into the garage to give my C4s it's monthly warm-up!(off the road for winter!!) and spotted a wet patch on the garage floor at the front n/s of the car, after investigating I found that the Radiator is leaking.
My plan now is to carry out the same work as you have done over the next few weeks and replace all Rad's and a clean up behind the arch liners.
Thanks to the detail and photo's you have shown it all looks fairly straight forward...hopefully!!

Could you tell me where you purchased you radiators and condensers from and how expensive were the small bits and pieces from Porsche, as it looks like a wheel refurb and car detail will be on the back burner for now
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just don't get any on your hands! and you need to use the whole little tin in one go - it reacts with moisture in the air so once its opened, its done.


A tip that I have read (on another forum) is to use a welding torch gas supply to flush out the air from a tin when storing it- makes it last a little longer.
 
  
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Dammit wrote:
wasz wrote:


Just don't get any on your hands! and you need to use the whole little tin in one go - it reacts with moisture in the air so once its opened, its done.


A tip that I have read (on another forum) is to use a welding torch gas supply to flush out the air from a tin when storing it- makes it last a little longer.


After use put cling film over the tin before you put the lid back on, that also works Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome work.
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Great work, looks like Mark is getting a mint set of coilovers Damn Mr. Green Thumb
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