Welcome to 911UK
The only place for Porsche, 911uk is the definitive enthusiast and resource site for the Porsche 911.
Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so join up today for full access to the site and benefit from latest member offers.

Porsche Classifieds
Sell Your Porsche on 911uk
Create a Free Classified Advert
Search Ads
Classified Adverts FAQ
Trade Classified Information
Buyer & Seller Fraud Protection
Consumer Rights Act
Pre Purchase Inspection (PPI)
Porsche Car Sourcing
Porsche Cars Wanted
Official Porsche Centre Reviews
Model
Stock
Porsche 911
992 : 2019- 0
991 : 2011- 22
997 : 2004- 64
996 : 1997-2005 32
993 : 1993-1998 5
964 : 1989-1993 2
Carrera 3.2 : 1983-1989 3
Carrera SC : 1977-1983 2
930 Turbo : 1975-1989 1
Early 911 : 1964-1977 1
Porsche Other Models
Classic : 1950-1965 0
Boxster : 1997- 30
Cayman : 2005- 22
Cayenne : 2003- 6
Macan : 2014- 8
Panamera : 2009- 0
912-914-924-928-944-968 1
959 - CarreraGT - RaceCar 0
Car Parts For Sale & Wanted
Other Items For Sale & Wanted
Wheels Tyres For Sale & Wanted
Number Plates For Sale Wanted

Porsche Services
Porsche Body Shop Repair
Paint Protection & Wrapping
Porsche Classic Insurance
Porsche Classic Parts
Porsche Classic Restoration
Porsche Design Collection
Porsche Engine Gearbox Rebuild
Porsche Heritage & History
Porsche News
Porsche Picture Gallery
Win a New Porsche 911

Porsche Parts
Body Parts, Body Styling
Brakes, Clearance
Electrical, Exhausts
Engine Cooling, Engine Electrical
Engine Rebuild, Heating Cooling
Interior Incar, Lighting
Rubber Seals, Service Parts
Steering, Suspension
Transmission, Workshop Tools
Early 911, 911 - 930, 928 - 968
964 - 993, 996 - 997, Boxster
Cayman, Cayenne, Panamera

Porsche Model Range
911 [992] 2018-Current
Porsche 911 [992]
911 [991] 2011-2019
Porsche 911 [991]
911 [997] 2004-2012
Porsche 911 [997]
911 [GT] GT1-GT2-GT3
Porsche 911 [GT]
911 [996] 1997-2005
Porsche 911 [996]
911 [993] 1993-1998
Porsche 911 [993]
911 [RS] RS-RSR
Porsche 911 [RS]
911 [964] 1989-1993
Porsche 911 [964]
911 3.2 1983-1989
Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera
911 SC 1977-1983
Porsche 911 SC
911 [Early] 1964-1977
Porsche 911 [Early]
Boxster & Cayman
Porsche Boxster & Cayman
Cayenne & Panamera
Porsche Cayenne & Panamera

911uk Site Partners

Post new topic   Reply to topic
Author Message
Roro
Long Beach


Joined: 01 Oct 2010
Posts: 6399



PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:25 pm    Post subject: L322 TDV8 Reply with quote

Merry Christmas all

Pretty close to getting one of these as a daily

Will be spending about 10/15k on a 07/08 model, and aim to do around 15k miles pa

Does anyone have any first hand experience of running one of these?

More importantly, which warranty company did you use, what level of cover, and did they actually pay out whenever things went wrong?

Cheers all
_________________
2007 997.1 GT3
2017 F87 M2
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
New997buyer
Banned


Joined: 17 Oct 2010
Posts: 9150



PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn thought from the title this was a number plate thread Sad
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Roro
Long Beach


Joined: 01 Oct 2010
Posts: 6399



PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, it is. £15k and it's yours!
_________________
2007 997.1 GT3
2017 F87 M2
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
MisterCorn
Dijon


Joined: 08 Jan 2011
Posts: 7259
Location: Nottingham, England

2004 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is any way you can stretch to the 4.4l with the ZF 8 speed box and newer sat nav then it is well worth it. An all round better car. Common faults are turbos and EGR valves, suspension compressors as well but that is usually an easy fix. All warranty companies are a total PITA as far as I'm concerned. Make friends with a good indy near you, well worth doing.

MC
 
  
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
   
G2
Albert Park


Joined: 26 Oct 2015
Posts: 1524



PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistercorn is spot on. 4.4l or don't buy one. One of mine (3yrs old at the time) went into limp mode on the autobahn on the way to a ski trip. 100mph to nothing 5 up and loaded worst driving experience I've had.. Recovered to land rover rosenheim, Hoses replaced, then on way home from collecting it from Munich same thing again...was actually the left turbo bank going...fixed under jlr warranty after lots of arguing, got it shipped back and traded it in for a porsche within 3 days. Had 2 older tdv8 models both were at the dealers more than on my drive......
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
New997buyer
Banned


Joined: 17 Oct 2010
Posts: 9150



PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:
Oh, it is. £15k and it's yours!

Floor thumbsup
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
bo_duke
Monza


Joined: 27 Jul 2014
Posts: 158



PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seen this?
- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gl51reRXxgE
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
ragpicker
Reims


Joined: 14 Apr 2013
Posts: 4030
Location: North East England


PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have the Sport in with the TDV8. A superb engine indeed.

Ours is on 140k miles now and never had any problem with it other than a suspension height sensor which is an easy fix. No engine issues at all.

In hindsight though I would still go for the 4.4 supercharged if I was to do it again. Fuel economy isnt much difference but there's less to go wrong (ie no potential turbo failures etc) and its much quicker.

If you're not used to it though, 2+ tonnes of motor takes a lot of slowing down when its got a shift on and EATS front discs/pads! Surprised
_________________
996 turbo - FOR SALE, Price reduced: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=131025&highlight=
986 S - usually in pieces: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=112626
955 Cayenne Turbo - a work in progress: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=131286&highlight=
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
MisterCorn
Dijon


Joined: 08 Jan 2011
Posts: 7259
Location: Nottingham, England

2004 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:
In hindsight though I would still go for the 4.4 supercharged if I was to do it again. Fuel economy isnt much difference but there's less to go wrong (ie no potential turbo failures etc) and its much quicker.


I would be amazed if the 4.4 supercharger is close to the diesel in fuel consumption. I regularly see 34mpg on my diesel on a run.

MC
 
  
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
   
kozzi
Nürburgring


Joined: 30 Nov 2014
Posts: 462
Location: suffolk


PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything after 20010 is a must as Mister Corn says. My 4.4 is my daily and love it - my wife even nicks it over her merc GL to tow the horse trailer. Get gearbox flush and software flash and all dif oils and done and it will last ages. Fan belt was a ***** as everything on the front has to
Come Off even the air on
_________________
I am the beast that feeds the beast
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Roro
Long Beach


Joined: 01 Oct 2010
Posts: 6399



PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all for the comments so far

MC/Kozzi, is the 4.4 TDV8 really that much more reliable than the 3.6? I'm not really too worried about the toys, it's more the reliability I want to maximise. I could potentially go for a higher miles 4.4 judging by a quick look at AT. If the issues like compressors and EGR valve are going to occur on the 4.4 anyway however then am I not just as well off in reliability terms buying a cheaper 3.6 TDV8?

Or did they manage to sort a lot of issues in the 4.4? If so then what things are less likely to go wrong on the newer model?

I'm loathe to deal with warranty companies too. Depending on premiums, I guess I could probably bank that sum instead and keep aside for fixes and repairs
_________________
2007 997.1 GT3
2017 F87 M2
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
MisterCorn
Dijon


Joined: 08 Jan 2011
Posts: 7259
Location: Nottingham, England

2004 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect the gearboxes and turbos are more reliable. I gad a feeling the EGR was improved too, but not perfect.... I had the 3.6l before changing to the 4.4l. It isn't one thing, everything is a little bit better which makes the whole experience much nicer. Mine has had a leaky coolant pipe, an EGR issue, bottom suspension arms, new battery, and pads all round in the 14 months I have had it. Battery and EGR problems were present when I bought it. Mine is a 2010, now on 60k miles. I did 12k miles in it last year, easily more than all of my other cars put together.

MC
 
  
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
   
ragpicker
Reims


Joined: 14 Apr 2013
Posts: 4030
Location: North East England


PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
ragpicker wrote:
In hindsight though I would still go for the 4.4 supercharged if I was to do it again. Fuel economy isnt much difference but there's less to go wrong (ie no potential turbo failures etc) and its much quicker.


I would be amazed if the 4.4 supercharger is close to the diesel in fuel consumption. I regularly see 34mpg on my diesel on a run.

MC


Around town we struggle to get anywhere near 20mpg in the diesel. People with the supercharged tell me they get about 15-16 around town which isn't much worse. Ours rarely goes on long runs where we would benefit from the higher mpg for that use, hence why I'd go petrol in hindsight... Horses for courses and all that Thumb
_________________
996 turbo - FOR SALE, Price reduced: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=131025&highlight=
986 S - usually in pieces: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=112626
955 Cayenne Turbo - a work in progress: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=131286&highlight=
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
kozzi
Nürburgring


Joined: 30 Nov 2014
Posts: 462
Location: suffolk


PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4.4 has the newer jag engine and different 8 speed gearbox which improves fuel on runs and doesn’t destroy itself as much
I love mine as I get in and press the button and she never lets me down. Had 2 gearboxes go on previous 3.6 tdv8
_________________
I am the beast that feeds the beast
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
160dmb
Monza


Joined: 19 Aug 2014
Posts: 159



PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 4.4 TDV8 and did a lot of research before buying it against a neighbours very nice 3.6.

The 4.4 engine is certainly sweeter and more powerful than the 3.6 and pleasingingly it is also more economical. I get nearly 30mpg most of the time and more than that on a run at motorway speeds. I can get 35mpg on occasions but have rarely seen any number above 35 in truth.

Whilst the 4.4 engine is better in terms or reliability and power it’s the 8 speed gearbox that makes the most difference.

If you can drive both you should try, and my hunch is you will agree with what others are saying here because I thought there was a very real difference in favour of the 4.4.

Mine is a Sept 2011 Vogue SE so just over 6 years old now and has had an air suspension compressor and rear dampers - both under LR warranty - it’s approaching 100,000 miles and with the addition of rear bushes honestly drives like brand new. Good ones don’t seem overly troubled by miles - mine was a high mileage motorway car known to me from new so I was lucky.

I added deployment steps, a tow bar and rear TV screens when I bought it so it is now my perfect spec.

The only thing I would be likely to replace it with is the newer model which the previous owner replaced mine with - luckily he bought another black with parchment one Smile so I’m just waiting.

In conclusion I was in exactly the position you are in and I ended up buying a slightly more expensive 4.4 and I love it
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Phil 997
Le Mans
Le Mans


Joined: 05 Dec 2015
Posts: 15505
Location: Bournemouth,Dorset

2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my advise is look for the later one with the digital dash and halo headlights think they started about 09 ,lots of nice comfort spec mine has the timed heater which means I come out in the morning to a warm and defrosted car thats the best thing about it for me . they are no better on fuel than the 911 but thats not an issue if your just sloping around. the two things you need to check is condition of the tailgate they rust badly and many have had a repair it will come back. and water ingress around the audio components in the rear left panel ,I had to replace my bluetooth phone unit due to that . if its had the LR fix you will see plastic wrap inside the compartment. not a great fix from a LR but it does the job.
But IMO they are nice cars for just dog walking , going to the tip, beach.shopping etc etc.
Never taken it further than 120 miles as I would use the Porsche for that. Grin
rear entertainment is also a nice feature if you have kids

repairs have cost me in the past year about the same as the 911 circa £1000/1200
_________________
911 Owners,Some Invest In The Future,
Others Enjoy The Moment Today.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
andy1985
Trainee


Joined: 28 Apr 2013
Posts: 80
Location: Barnsley


PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run a 3.6 vogue SE as a daily.

The best advice I was given was to use the engine properly, if you sit looking at the MPG trying to get it as high as possible then expect turbo and EGR problems and if doing short trips open it up properly once a week.

Running costs aren't bad unless you venture into a dealership. Find a good little indy and save a few quid to put towards the road tax.

http://www.fullfatrr.com/ is a good source of info
_________________
2001 996TT tip
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Roro
Long Beach


Joined: 01 Oct 2010
Posts: 6399



PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice. I bottled it in the end, and went for an E70 30D. I had an X5 years ago (E53) and this is a huge improvement. Hoping it'll be reliable and efficient (09 plate with 35k on the clock), and have organised a 3 year warranty. Will definitely look at L322 4.4 diesels when time comes to trade for something else
Thumb
_________________
2007 997.1 GT3
2017 F87 M2
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
eatapeach
Newbie


Joined: 11 Mar 2016
Posts: 30
Location: Cheshire


PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:
Thanks for all the advice. I bottled it in the end, and went for an E70 30D. I had an X5 years ago (E53) and this is a huge improvement. Hoping it'll be reliable and efficient (09 plate with 35k on the clock), and have organised a 3 year warranty. Will definitely look at L322 4.4 diesels when time comes to trade for something else
Thumb


Probably a wise choice - I have bad prior experience with RR/LR product.

I've had 3 Amazons since those dark days - one I did 90k miles in 3 years and only issue was a fan belt and a rear bulb. It's got 2 fan belts.... Smile

And my maintenance is nowhere near the figures on 911.....
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   All times are GMT - 12 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum