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996.1 cab C2 manual

I asked on the other thread but you didn't reply - does the horn work when the steering lock is engaged ?
 
Demort said:
Yes it would as the lock mechanism would join the shaft and the outer column together there by createing an earth on the inner shaft .

Based on your experience ? How many of these have you successfully fitted to 996s now ?

I asked because that's what happened when I fitted mine. The horn only worked when the steering lock was engaged; not very useful. The solution was very simple and involved adding a short earth lead but it was five years ago now and I can't remember exactly how I did it. If I get around to taking the cover off the steering column again I'll take a photo.

If the OP is in the same position that I was I'd be confident my solution is what he needs. It's probably the same thing that Northway did for crash7. Which is why I'm surprised Precision have wasted so much time on not doing it.

Demort said:
.. strip back the insulation for about 8 inches and lightly wrap it around the shaft to create a slip ring .. then just connect it to an earth .

This would need to be tested as ive not tryed it but it is a possible solution :)

No it's not. It's a horrendous bodge.
 
Sundayjumper said:
Demort said:
Yes it would as the lock mechanism would join the shaft and the outer column together there by createing an earth on the inner shaft .

Based on your experience ? How many of these have you successfully fitted to 996s now ?

I asked because that's what happened when I fitted mine. The horn only worked when the steering lock was engaged; not very useful. The solution was very simple and involved adding a short earth lead but it was five years ago now and I can't remember exactly how I did it. If I get around to taking the cover off the steering column again I'll take a photo.

If the OP is in the same position that I was I'd be confident my solution is what he needs. It's probably the same thing that Northway did for crash7. Which is why I'm surprised Precision have wasted so much time on not doing it.

Demort said:
.. strip back the insulation for about 8 inches and lightly wrap it around the shaft to create a slip ring .. then just connect it to an earth .

This would need to be tested as ive not tryed it but it is a possible solution :)

No it's not. It's a horrendous bodge.


If ever there was a comment to make me wonder why i bother coming here then this has got to be the one .

Have a nice day :D
 
An email from Gert arrived today, apparently a small hole needs to be drilled in the black metal part of the steering column (pointing finger) and an earth wire then attached to a screw through said hole.

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Being transparent I am unclear how this section of the column connects to the inner, rotating part of the column, possibly magical unicorns are involved.

I've forwarded the email to Precision so they can verify the level of mono-horned, mythical quadruped involved.
 
As some light relief from the Vexed Wheel Conundrum, and as an opportunity to thank Mark - I have obtained the door striker gaskets that he was kind enough to provide me the part number of.

Thanks Mark!

Obtaining them was a bit strange - no VW dealer in London will a) accept payment over the phone and (related) b) send items by post.

So if you want to buy two VW group gaskets you have to go in person - if of course you buy them from VW. I ended up ordering VW parts from Porsche, because I knew the parts chap and he was happy to order them in.

This does mean that I will strike VW off the list of potential purchases - I find it staggering in 2017 that you have to buy in person, in cash.
 
Demort said:
Sundayjumper said:
Demort said:
Yes it would as the lock mechanism would join the shaft and the outer column together there by createing an earth on the inner shaft .

Based on your experience ? How many of these have you successfully fitted to 996s now ?

I asked because that's what happened when I fitted mine. The horn only worked when the steering lock was engaged; not very useful. The solution was very simple and involved adding a short earth lead but it was five years ago now and I can't remember exactly how I did it. If I get around to taking the cover off the steering column again I'll take a photo.

If the OP is in the same position that I was I'd be confident my solution is what he needs. It's probably the same thing that Northway did for crash7. Which is why I'm surprised Precision have wasted so much time on not doing it.

Demort said:
.. strip back the insulation for about 8 inches and lightly wrap it around the shaft to create a slip ring .. then just connect it to an earth .

This would need to be tested as ive not tryed it but it is a possible solution :)

No it's not. It's a horrendous bodge.


If ever there was a comment to make me wonder why i bother coming here then this has got to be the one .

Have a nice day :D

Please don't let one insensitive comment put you off. ALL the rest of us really appreciate your input.

Mike
 
maldren said:
Demort said:
Sundayjumper said:
Demort said:
Yes it would as the lock mechanism would join the shaft and the outer column together there by createing an earth on the inner shaft .

Based on your experience ? How many of these have you successfully fitted to 996s now ?

I asked because that's what happened when I fitted mine. The horn only worked when the steering lock was engaged; not very useful. The solution was very simple and involved adding a short earth lead but it was five years ago now and I can't remember exactly how I did it. If I get around to taking the cover off the steering column again I'll take a photo.

If the OP is in the same position that I was I'd be confident my solution is what he needs. It's probably the same thing that Northway did for crash7. Which is why I'm surprised Precision have wasted so much time on not doing it.

Demort said:
.. strip back the insulation for about 8 inches and lightly wrap it around the shaft to create a slip ring .. then just connect it to an earth .

This would need to be tested as ive not tryed it but it is a possible solution :)

No it's not. It's a horrendous bodge.


If ever there was a comment to make me wonder why i bother coming here then this has got to be the one .

Have a nice day :D

Please don't let one insensitive comment put you off. ALL the rest of us really appreciate your input.

Mike

+1
 
We have a conclusion- throughout the life of the 996 Porsche introduced many revisions of the steering column. Originally it was (pre-PSM) a single piece unit, post-PSM it's a double piece unit.

One critical difference between the two is that the PSM style are either grounded or can be grounded. The pre-PSM shaft runs in plastic bushings that do a remarkably good job of isolating it, from an electrical standpoint.

Therefore to make the horn of the Cup wheel work on my car we'd need to swap to a PSM column, which given that the Cup wheel was selected as it was the cheaper of two options (the other being the spacer that Carnewal sell), is silly.

I'll return the wheel to Gert and get the spacer in exchange, fit the original wheel and get D:Class to re-trim it as part of the work in January.
 
Superb thread m8 - really informative and a great read... :thumb:


Osh
 
Cheers D, glad you sourced the door catch gaskets ok anyway.

As for the steering wheel, what a bummer. Not the outcome I'd been hoping for, for your sake and later, mine. I'm pre-PSM too so that's a big blow to my interior plans.

The standard 3 spoke looks great when retrimmed though. Craig (cobra RS on here) has one in his car and it makes a big difference as it's something you touch as well as look at. Completely alters the feel of the cabin.

Anyway, as Osh says, great info in this thread which should help loads of other owners with regard to the various projects covered, even though you have had to endure some hassle along the way . Good work. :thumb:
 
Thanks - we're not actually out of the woods on the wheel it turns out.

I spoke with Gert, he made a very good point: we're also having issues with the Porsche/Momo hub fitting on my column, he's sent a new one out which should arrive today in order to rule out manufacturing error. If the new one also doesn't fit, then we have a problem, - the extender uses the same pattern as the hub, so if one doesn't fit neither will the other.

So I've asked Precision to test this - if it fits, great, we'll go for the extender, if it doesn't then we have no choice but to swap the column to a later unit.

Just to add to the fun my Becker (fitted on page 1) has started having issues with regards to radio reception, which is annoying - I believe that every Englishman should be able to listen to Radio 4 when in the car, and this has become problematic.

I paid £500 for the Becker, if it's dead that's going to be a bitter pill to swallow so I've emailed a place in Germany that says they repair them. I'll report back.

Does anyone know of a different option for a stereo?

The Porsche Classic unit is £much (over £900 with PCGB discount from an OPC), what else is out there which fits with a 996 dash, but has modern attributes such as Bluetooth and (if possible) nav?
 
Hi D
there's a big range of units depending on whether you want to stick with single height or go for a 'double DIN' unit with screen, satnav etc etc.

You're probably best visiting a local car audio specialist for a start. IIRC yours is an early car so you don't have to worry about the MOST system and the on screen computer but you may want to think about DAB and bluetooth integration as well.

Car stereos have changed a lot since you car was built with MP3 players etc gradually replacing CDs so non original upgrades are well worth considering, especially since you car is already non standard.
 
Dammit said:
Does anyone know of a different option for a stereo?

How about the snapily named Continental CDD7416UB-OR, has bluetooth and USB. They do versions with DAB too.

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You could probably open it up and flip the screen filter to make it orange on black to match.
 

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