Joined: 20 Aug 2012 Posts: 6447 Location: Liverpool
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:03 pm Post subject:
In other shocking news another mate of mine who works as a sales agent at RR (long term tenant who has become a friend) informed me he is starting work as the franchise manager for Kia in Southport. He was fed up with paying the BIK on his company RR sport and dealing with complaints _________________ 1997 Porsche 911 993 C4S My Journal
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tim993 Zolder
Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5224 Location: Hampshire
Explains a lot, this thing was asking for a service after literally 3 weeks. Same with topping up the adblue. I hate it more by the day
How much AdBlue have you had to use? I'm curious to see how it compares to the X5. _________________ "I don't know what it is about peace conferences, but they always seem to attract terrorists, extremists and nutterists."
1995 993 turbo
spongebob squarepants Long Beach
Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 6068 Location: Manchester and Iraq
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:33 am Post subject:
No idea on actual quantity, its Mrs Sponges car, had it over a year its been in for top up 4-5 times. Is this normal for Ad blue on a modern diesel? _________________ 991 C2S PDK - X51 430 powerkit, Carbon GT2 folding buckets, PCCB, PDCC, PSE, Carrera S alloys, Sports design bodykit with ducktail and Alcantara steering wheel. If Carling did a 991S...
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tim993 Zolder
Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5224 Location: Hampshire
Not sure what normal is really. We put 10litres in the Mrs' X5 last week. That's for about 13k miles over 19 months. I believe the tank holds 15litres. The warning light came on the day I bought a container of the stuff - a complete coincidence as I was starting to worry that we had never topped it up. _________________ "I don't know what it is about peace conferences, but they always seem to attract terrorists, extremists and nutterists."
1995 993 turbo
spongebob squarepants Long Beach
Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 6068 Location: Manchester and Iraq
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:15 am Post subject:
tim993 wrote:
Not sure what normal is really. We put 10litres in the Mrs' X5 last week. That's for about 13k miles over 19 months. I believe the tank holds 15litres. The warning light came on the day I bought a container of the stuff - a complete coincidence as I was starting to worry that we had never topped it up.
Mrs Sponge drives to the dealers. Its probably going into the wrong hole otherwise At least the JLR dealers are good for something, along with supplies of sweets and assorted drinks.
Talking of which BMW dealers OMFG!!! Hard work!! Save for one through car wow whos been okish, the others are horrendous so far.
We just want the cheapest price (thats 9.7% off basically!) Dont want the paint protection! Dont want the run flats! Front camera?! no!. Expensive gap protection no no and no.
And Please just a PX price would be good! Oh you cant give discounts out over the phone or px prices?! Ive told you the Austin Rover is unmarked, low mileage, FLSH. Just give me your shite px price for gods sake! werobyourcar.com will give me xxxx amount, so I need more than that? otherwise whats the friggin point in coming to you!!??
Ah of course you need to talk to your manager, Mrs sponge says your only 12 anyway. ill just speak to the other bloke through car wow! And take the Austin Rover to werobyourcar.com
Mrs Sponge will be back for a test drive on Monday.... _________________ 991 C2S PDK - X51 430 powerkit, Carbon GT2 folding buckets, PCCB, PDCC, PSE, Carrera S alloys, Sports design bodykit with ducktail and Alcantara steering wheel. If Carling did a 991S...
“Herman yellow, the last of the naturally aspirated. ”YKIMS"
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tim993 Zolder
Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5224 Location: Hampshire
Down in the south our local BMW dealers are in Salisbury and Eastleigh. Both have been happy to give out px over the phone and the one in Salisbury even talked discounts. He asked what price they need to match and we quoted one of those online places (Broadspeed I think) and later on they came back saying they could match plus another %. They weren't so good in Cobham where we used to live, but out in rural Hampshire / Wiltshire they are actually quite pleasant. _________________ "I don't know what it is about peace conferences, but they always seem to attract terrorists, extremists and nutterists."
1995 993 turbo
spongebob squarepants Long Beach
Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 6068 Location: Manchester and Iraq
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:29 am Post subject:
tim993 wrote:
Down in the south our local BMW dealers are in Salisbury and Eastleigh. Both have been happy to give out px over the phone and the one in Salisbury even talked discounts. He asked what price they need to match and we quoted one of those online places (Broadspeed I think) and later on they came back saying they could match plus another %. They weren't so good in Cobham where we used to live, but out in rural Hampshire / Wiltshire they are actually quite pleasant.
I think it's a Wilmslow thing a little like OPC Wilmslow! _________________ 991 C2S PDK - X51 430 powerkit, Carbon GT2 folding buckets, PCCB, PDCC, PSE, Carrera S alloys, Sports design bodykit with ducktail and Alcantara steering wheel. If Carling did a 991S...
“Herman yellow, the last of the naturally aspirated. ”YKIMS"
Yellow + red = Orange
Zingari Brands Hatch
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Posts: 13077 Location: Cheshire
Down in the south our local BMW dealers are in Salisbury and Eastleigh. Both have been happy to give out px over the phone and the one in Salisbury even talked discounts. He asked what price they need to match and we quoted one of those online places (Broadspeed I think) and later on they came back saying they could match plus another %. They weren't so good in Cobham where we used to live, but out in rural Hampshire / Wiltshire they are actually quite pleasant.
I think it's a Wilmslow thing a little like OPC Wilmslow!
That's because they find it harder to shift those p/x with dark tinted windows all round, spinners, an over-use of chrome and the front/rear bumpers damaged by too many number plate screws to make up all sorts of names _________________ The game's afoot. It's time to put a bit of (Colini) stick about......964/993 wanted. Cash waiting. No dreamers
spongebob squarepants Long Beach
Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 6068 Location: Manchester and Iraq
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:19 pm Post subject: Are BMW/Audi dealers, general car dealers the worst ever?
OMFG.
Trying to buy a car, but so difficult. BM dealars awful x 3. Little interest other than putting load of complicated deals together and speccing up cars. You
f ucking idiots, you havent got a sale yet!! despite trying very hard and photographing/bringing car to you, begging for a price.you wont give us a price! Forget the new one at the moment! And no I dont want to take it next door to webuyanycar.com, (they will give you a better price sir??!) thats why ive come to you c unts for some good old fashioned servce!(Or Mrs Sponge has) In fact forget it BMW is off the shopping list!
So Audi ah this will be easy! Err nope!! after a nearly new which really complicates things....... Found one, after several phone calls, emails, online chats, you name it, still cant find out if its still even for sale! Or the mileage, lets not even go to the complicated pocees of obtaining the ridiculously low px offer!
I have about 33k to spend, and a ***** rover to trade, theres no work for you, the car I want is as new, the car your selling is new or as new, give me a figure, Mrs Sponge turns up with the Sh it Rover, and drives the new or nearly new Audi away, easiest sale ever kaboom!
Forget your finance! Mrs Sponge can get it cheaper, so match it or forget it! Car dealers (other than the good guys on here) I hate you all. _________________ 991 C2S PDK - X51 430 powerkit, Carbon GT2 folding buckets, PCCB, PDCC, PSE, Carrera S alloys, Sports design bodykit with ducktail and Alcantara steering wheel. If Carling did a 991S...
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jonttt Long Beach
Joined: 20 Aug 2012 Posts: 6447 Location: Liverpool
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:38 pm Post subject:
I can see why you support Utd _________________ 1997 Porsche 911 993 C4S My Journal
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spongebob squarepants Long Beach
Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 6068 Location: Manchester and Iraq
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:07 pm Post subject:
jonttt wrote:
I can see why you support Utd
Ill set mrs Sponge on you (in red)
Tried the online chat thing again as running out of ideas! Now, I realise its probably a call centre somewhere with nowt to do with the dealers, but he/she/it finishes the convo with
HSI - 'they will get back to you soon as they can, they must be busy'
Me - 'yes they were busy yesterday too!'
HSI- Anything else I can help you with?!
Me -'Err well you havent helped at all!'
HSI -cut me off!
nasty pasty _________________ 991 C2S PDK - X51 430 powerkit, Carbon GT2 folding buckets, PCCB, PDCC, PSE, Carrera S alloys, Sports design bodykit with ducktail and Alcantara steering wheel. If Carling did a 991S...
“Herman yellow, the last of the naturally aspirated. ”YKIMS"
Yellow + red = Orange
mikeluke Kyalami
Joined: 03 Jun 2014 Posts: 1975 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:38 pm Post subject:
I will probably regret admitting to this but...
I bought my X5 via Motorpoint...
it was pretty much hassle-free - they offered me a decent trade-in price, did not quibble when I turned up with the car, and the car I bought was a decent price.
I have had good an bad experiences with UK BMW dealers. It seems to vary a lot.
Gone off Audi ever since our local branch (Reading) was in court for bullying an apprentice... _________________ Current:
981 Boxster S PDK
BMW X5 4.0d M Sport
BMW M140i (Mrs L's)
VW Polo Match 1.2 (the lad's)
Former:
996 Turbo S Cabrio Manual
996 Turbo Coupe Tip
968 Cabrio Manual
Zingari Brands Hatch
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Posts: 13077 Location: Cheshire
Have you tried WBAC by chance Reason I ask is they actually offered me a better price on my Cayenne than OPC did when I was looking to chop it in for a Cayman
I sold private in the end higher than both p/x offers and that was from a national dealer that had OPC in its network _________________ The game's afoot. It's time to put a bit of (Colini) stick about......964/993 wanted. Cash waiting. No dreamers
spongebob squarepants Long Beach
Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 6068 Location: Manchester and Iraq
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:32 pm Post subject:
Zingari wrote:
Have you tried WBAC by chance Reason I ask is they actually offered me a better price on my Cayenne than OPC did when I was looking to chop it in for a Cayman
I sold private in the end higher than both p/x offers and that was from a national dealer that had OPC in its network
Yep they have actually offered the best price (£25,800) I know this as they e mail me everyday to remind me!
However as an example Audis own online px valuation is £26900. Which is about what I'd expect to get against an approved used, as there's always some play in the price. It's an easy valuation for a nearly new low miles unmarked car.
That's the mega annoying thing with the BM dealers, offer 25,500 against an undiscounted car, when I know I can get one discounted 9.7%. You'd think they would at least try adding 7% to the trade in value as the normal shinaligans! But nope..
On the 911 I just bought ( I know higher value) but obviously 911 prices are strong and it was already well priced. For my golf (WBAC value 17600) they gave me 20,600, plus 850 off the 911.
Anyway mrs sponge has sat in the Q5 now. That's effectively the end of the X1! The problem with the new Q5 is there relatively new out, so strong still for a pre reg or nearly new. Not paying nearly 40k new, but a few cropping up at 33-34. The Austin Rover price is in free fall, pity who finishes up with it on their drive..
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“Herman yellow, the last of the naturally aspirated. ”YKIMS"
Yellow + red = Orange
mikeluke Kyalami
Joined: 03 Jun 2014 Posts: 1975 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:12 pm Post subject:
Ah....
I try not to let Mrs L anywhere near a new car until I've done the 'man maths'... otherwise I'd have something on the drive that would be very, blingy and depreciating faster than Usain Bolt.... _________________ Current:
981 Boxster S PDK
BMW X5 4.0d M Sport
BMW M140i (Mrs L's)
VW Polo Match 1.2 (the lad's)
Former:
996 Turbo S Cabrio Manual
996 Turbo Coupe Tip
968 Cabrio Manual
rpm Nürburgring
Joined: 18 Mar 2012 Posts: 431 Location: Kent
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:52 pm Post subject:
Blimey - what a thread!!
I must be one of the luckiest LR owners on the planet.
Wife's Disco Sport is a year old now and has been faultless (except for the recent puncture). The new ingenium engine is miles ahead of the Freelander for refinement but not much better fuel economy wise.
We've had a Freelander 2 from new and after 7 years and 70,000 miles the only faults have been a failed battery and turbo hose.
In fact my old Freelander V6 was a great car except for the fact that you could never better 20mpg and it only had a 10 gallon fuel tank. I was having to fill up every 5 days. _________________ 2005 997 C2S with Aerokit
My other car's my wife's hand-me-down
jhb Newbie
Joined: 16 Oct 2017 Posts: 5
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:39 pm Post subject: JLR
Had a RR Sport, reliable but very ordinary build quality, also had a couple of freelanders - both reliable. Currently got an XC90, very dull but does it's job perfectly and need 7 seats as have 4 kids and far better value than JLR or German products;
Don't do your dough You sure the Q5 has enough street cred for the mean streets of Cheshire
I reckon during my morning coffee in Alderley I counted 30+ RR of varying types in 2hrs Only one Evoque so that must tell you something.
The motoring 'paps' see them as an eyesore like when you used to get a 'hair in the gate' of your old SLR _________________ The game's afoot. It's time to put a bit of (Colini) stick about......964/993 wanted. Cash waiting. No dreamers
spongebob squarepants Long Beach
Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 6068 Location: Manchester and Iraq
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:49 am Post subject:
Zingari wrote:
Don't do your dough You sure the Q5 has enough street cred for the mean streets of Cheshire
I reckon during my morning coffee in Alderley I counted 30+ RR of varying types in 2hrs Only one Evoque so that must tell you something.
The motoring 'paps' see them as an eyesore like when you used to get a 'hair in the gate' of your old SLR
The evoque is minging. While the heap was in the delaers Mrs Sponge had an evoque as the loan car (booked 6 weeks in advance!) The salesman said these are really good on fuel madam' Yep it averaged 31??!! Good for JLR I suppose.
Q5 is the way to go. Gentlemens club v JLR 'Rovers return interior' and its 'boxy' (this is apprently a good thing) Audis top seller worlwide. Real world consumption mid 40's, smart interior, plenty of aluminium panels with 190 BHP from the basic 2.0 TDI, no silly styling shaping outside, just good old Audi style. _________________ 991 C2S PDK - X51 430 powerkit, Carbon GT2 folding buckets, PCCB, PDCC, PSE, Carrera S alloys, Sports design bodykit with ducktail and Alcantara steering wheel. If Carling did a 991S...
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Zingari Brands Hatch
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Posts: 13077 Location: Cheshire
I can see the logic but look at this way Mrs Sponge will find something else to whinge about if the Audi will be so good. At the moment you've got a useful means of keeping her occupied but your fireproof Unless of course you get the blame for suggesting she bought one in the first place _________________ The game's afoot. It's time to put a bit of (Colini) stick about......964/993 wanted. Cash waiting. No dreamers
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At least the JLR dealers are good for something, along with supplies of sweets and assorted drinks.
That's because they find it harder to shift those p/x with dark tinted windows all round, spinners, an over-use of chrome and the front/rear bumpers damaged by too many number plate screws to make up all sorts of names 
Reason I ask is they actually offered me a better price on my Cayenne than OPC did when I was looking to chop it in for a Cayman 
Good for JLR I suppose.
Unless of course you get the blame for suggesting she bought one in the first place 