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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:09 pm    Post subject: 987 to 981 airbag swap Reply with quote

Hi all, bought a 981 steering wheel manual only no airbag, thinking the round airbag from my 987 gen 2 would fit but the horn ring assy is different , anybody know if it's possible and what's required? Thanks
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’d need to see your wheel but it should fit, if you’re gen.2 wheel is the later wheel (early gen.2 cars had the gen.1 wheel.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi , the 987 wheel is the one with the T shaped horn ring, the airbag module is round but the retaining system and horn push different. Question Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your wheel is like either pic 2 or 3 the air bag is interchangeable if its like the one in pic 1 then you will need a new airbag, Nigel99 has just changed his gen2 wheel to the type in pic 1 he would be able to give you any info you need on how to do it and what you need etc. Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, none of the above,looks like the airbag could be removed from the horn ring assy but would need brackets from 981 retaining system,then some method for horn operation maybe new pickup ring under the wheel.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you need to explain in a bit more detail as I am now a bit confussed as to what your trying to do , what do you mean by horn ring assembly Question Dont know
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

968bloke wrote:
Hi, none of the above,looks like the airbag could be removed from the horn ring assy but would need brackets from 981 retaining system,then some method for horn operation maybe new pickup ring under the wheel.


Need photos. If your wheel is none of thenohitis shown then I don’t think it will fit.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi , start again ,mine must be an early gen 2 with round airbag but contained in a three spoke horn ring design, the wiring for the horn come up to the airbag on a brown plug and then to three contact pads on the base of the airbag module, the 981 must have a different contact ring under the wheel with a contact through to the airbag module which is the horn push. All in all I will probably put the 981 wheel back on the market and take a hit for not doing enough homework PC Sad
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

968bloke wrote:
Hi , start again ,mine must be an early gen 2 with round airbag but contained in a three spoke horn ring design, the wiring for the horn come up to the airbag on a brown plug and then to three contact pads on the base of the airbag module, the 981 must have a different contact ring under the wheel with a contact through to the airbag module which is the horn push. All in all I will probably put the 981 wheel back on the market and take a hit for not doing enough homework PC Sad


So does your wheel look like this , which is the gen1 sports wheel but may have been fitted to very early gen2 cars
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep that's the one!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

968bloke wrote:
Yep that's the one!


OK good ,so which of the above three wheels are you looking to fit instead of the one you have Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same as number2 in alcantara from a 981
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

968bloke wrote:
Same as number2 in alcantara from a 981


lovely, same as mine ,

So your right your round airbag wont fit but your old wheel and air bag could be sold on ebay to recoupe some of your costs as gen1 drivers with the std triangle airbag would want the round sports one so it would sell easily.

what you will need it this airbag these sell for around £350 to £499

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Porsche-Steering-Wheel-Airbag-911-997-991-Cayenne-Panamera-958-7P5-970-/252970999533?hash=item3ae63f1eed:g:Ut0AAOSwq1JZLofL

as its a manual you shouldnt need the newer steering control module . when fitting the new airbag make sure the cables sit in the groove for them and apply silicon grease around the airbag especially on the three holding tabs this will stop it sticking when you press the horn . Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If after you have fitted it the horn doesnt work then you will need to go to your local opc and get them to hook up PIWIS and turn on the multifunction option , you will need to insist they do this as they will think they know better and will say "it hasnt got multifunction " so just insist they do this and you will be good to go. Thumb let me know if you have any other questions Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Phil for your time and patience much appreciated worship worship
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably better to get an indy to do it .. less hassle than an OPC service advisor !

Nice looking interior Phil .. i didnt realise you had the full package inside .. i do love painted interiors , really makes a difference to a car and ive never seen blue before Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demort wrote:
Probably better to get an indy to do it .. less hassle than an OPC service advisor !

Nice looking interior Phil .. i didnt realise you had the full package inside .. i do love painted interiors , really makes a difference to a car and ive never seen blue before Thumb


Thanks Iain mate , yes got the alcantara bits and the centre console painted when I first got the car as you say it lifts the interior , I then decided to get the door spears done just to see what it was like and was very pleased with the outcome
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