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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:44 pm    Post subject: New water pump time , £245 OE or £108 budget? Reply with quote

I know sometimes it's a false economy but don't know about the pumps, budget one is Circoli from Eurocarpsrts, less with discount, looks to have a metal impeller but no description.

There's also one on eBay for £108 including gasket, no brand name but apparently OE quality!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOR-PORSCHE-911-3-4-3-6-966-BOXSTER-986-1996-WATER-PUMP-GASKET-KIT-/292138008334?fits=Car+Make%3APorsche%7CPlat_Gen%3A996&epid=934556033&hash=item4404c83f0e:g:~AgAAOSw1KxXMxY1

Anyone tried a cheap one?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought OE with a bit of discount from local OPC.

No brainer for me, fit and forget.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just replace 2 of these. 1 on my 987 and 1 on 996.
I replaced them both with Porsche units from my OPC. Each old unit had covered over 60k miles and were also original equipment. For that type of service versus the cost of replacing an early failure should a lower price unit not last as long, I would say go for the original equipment unit and be done with it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, I'll give them a ring for a price.

I'm going to give it a go myself, looks pretty straightforward.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just having another look, ECP have a Geba one, listed as OE quality, £230 but with 37% off ??

Do the OE ones have a metal or plastic impeller?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original has a plastic impeller
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha, just reading up about the pros and cons minefield of plastic v metal!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask your OPC parts man if they offer discount, they normally oblige in my experience by around 10%. Shy kids get no sweets! thumbsup
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely food for thought on the plastic v metal front. They both give significant problems when they break up. Thats why I advocate replacing before they go wrong and replacing them with a known quality item. I just think of them as a 'lifed' service part and at or about 60k or the first signs of noise , out they go. Hopefully preventing any break up/machining/overheating issues.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a Pierburg pump from Autodoc and when it turned up it was the same pump that I removed. Saved £400 and it was here in 3 days.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all,

Having read lots of posts on them I'm now almost as bored as when I read all the ims posts! I'm going to go for the Geba one for £145 which do get a very good write up and I'll be taking Peter's advice and adding it to my service list.

Never had all this faff with other makes, if something breaks I buy the part and fix it, I don't need to trawl the internet to read tonnes of OE vs aftermarket engine destroying posts. You'd have thought after 50 years.....😂
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and coolant, which type?

It looks like it should be Triple QX Red (OAT) but mine's green as I saw when it leaked out. Will draining via the drain plug remove all the old green so I can refil with red and not have any mixing issues?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pierberg from autodoc is the one to go for.

Comma Xstream G40 would be the right coolant - however, you have a problem, as someone has filled it with the wrong coolant (green?), and it will need to be removed completely before it is changed.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grey996 wrote:
Thanks all,

Having read lots of posts on them I'm now almost as bored as when I read all the ims posts! I'm going to go for the Geba one for £145 which do get a very good write up and I'll be taking Peter's advice and adding it to my service list.

Never had all this faff with other makes, if something breaks I buy the part and fix it, I don't need to trawl the internet to read tonnes of OE vs aftermarket engine destroying posts. You'd have thought after 50 years.....😂


So having read all the posts you buy the cheap one from ECP as opposed to the one you've been recommended to buy, the Pierburg which is an original part Question
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did buy the Pierburg one in the end ( though i didn't realise it's an original part)

The Geba one was actually more expensive, RRP at least and does get very good reviews.

Anyway, fingers crossed!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything is better than the old one.

Water pumps are an easyish long term life prolonging service part.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the market... what's wrong with this 'OEM replacement' from porscheshop for £150?
https://www.porscheshop.co.uk/porsche-mechanical-parts/porsche-996-mechanical-parts-1998-to-2005/porsche-996-water-cooling-1998-to-2005/water-pump-996-986-boxster-replacement-97-02-early.html
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've gone for OE on mine, direct from Porsche. I think if it was me buying it myself i'd have gone for the cheaper, OE quality item, i think we're paying for the Porsche branding.

However, the engine builder has a wealth of experience and it's his reputation on the line so i don't question it. On the flip side, the use of guaranteed quality parts throughout, despite cost, is an added layer of comfort. It's been the same with bearing shells, timing chains, tensioners, the whole shebang, all direct from Porsche where required.

I did have to renew a faulty lambda sensor in the past. I bought one direct from EuroCarParts, the exact same Bosch item and with the Porsche part number filed off. The only real difference was the price.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the fitting hasn't exactly gone according to plan!

Firstly someone has welded the exhaust clamps up for some reason so I couldn't undo them to move them out of the way. I ploughed on regardless though and moved onto the pump bolts but on the first one the head sheared off! The others loosened ok but how do you get to the bottom right two?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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