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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:00 pm    Post subject: Got me thinking first test drive Reply with quote

Today i drove my first PDK car as im looking to buy a gen 2 997 but the catch is it was a Cayman 3.4S and it didnt disappoint, what a cracking bit of kit.

Cayman S 64 plate 14k plenty factory options for £43k is the 997 that much better?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posed the same question when considering the 991 v a 981.

Click => £37k difference in price!!

The phrase "The Cayman is a great car but it's not a 911" carries a lot less sway nowadays.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Got me thinking first test drive Reply with quote

Kev M wrote:
Today i drove my first PDK car as im looking to buy a gen 2 997 but the catch is it was a Cayman 3.4S and it didnt disappoint, what a cracking bit of kit.

Cayman S 64 plate 14k plenty factory options for £43k is the 997 that much better?


It's a 911. Enough said really, a work colleague just got a Cayman GTS, was looking at pics today. Then I showed pics of my impending 997.2 4S. It's just a bloke 911 thing, the Cayman (especially GTS) is a stunning car of course.

Perhaps it's just the engine in the back supercar thing, compared to a plethrer of mid engined 2 seaters? For me and most "blokes" I know it will always be the 911
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Bob rightly said its a 911 that's it We have 2 Boxster's in the household but only one 911 my mates only really want to play in the 911 that says it all to me good luck Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's no denying they're incredible cars but it's the lack of hips I can't get past. Always been more j-lo than Kate moss
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the comments so far are pretty much it not being a 911, not much being said about the balance of power handling etc or even the devaluation factor.

Even for a Porsche soon to be newby i discounted the Cayman due to the its not a 911 but it was bloody good to drive, the PDK box is something else smooth as you like and the down change in sport mode was impressive.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kev M wrote:
So the comments so far are pretty much it not being a 911, not much being said about the balance of power handling etc or even the devaluation factor.

Even for a Porsche soon to be newby i discounted the Cayman due to the its not a 911 but it was bloody good to drive, the PDK box is something else smooth as you like and the down change in sport mode was impressive.


My first Porsche was a boxster 3.4S cracking motor, never forget that car, then I went to drive a 996 cab from a dealer in Macclesfield, strangely he just threw me the keys and said take it out for an hr. bug*er he knew and an hr later a deposit was made! (And I then forgot all about the boxster)

Again all personal preference with the clutchless manual but it is the best of both worlds (without the buttons)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kev M the first Porsche I test drove was a Cayman loved it to bits but one brain just kept coming back to if I only have one Porsche in my life let it be a 911
Here is a analogy for you
Mini Cooper or Cooper S
Audi coupe Quattro or Audi Quattro Turbo
Sunbeam 1600ti or Sunbeam Lotus
Ford Escort Mexico or RS2000
I chose the latter every time its not that the former is a poor car just the latter much more desirable IMHO and in an auction house values too
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...plus you are asking for opinions on 911uk so we're bound to be a bit biased! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not say that on purpose Badlands Floor
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mzmini - very diplomatic, I like your style...mine had a hint of Boris about it, speak first think second
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nowt wrong with a bit of Boris from time to time Floor Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats more like it Smile

Looking forward to getting my 911 Very Happy
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will know you have made a wise choice when people just out off the blue walk up you and say nice car, both men and women have done this
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will miss tarmac rallying in the F2 Escort Maxi and all the attention that gets but time to hang up the race boots and enjoy some trips out and the odd track day.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To balance things out a bit I chose a boxster over a 911. I had no bias other than I just wanted the car that would give me the most fun. My basic requirement was a weekend car convertible.

The boxster GTS won hands down compared to the 911 both in terms of fun to drive and the noise it made (which is a major part of the experience for me).

There where some major factors I did not need to consider though which may be relevant to me :

- I did not need 4 seats (even if 2 are only suitable for occasional use)
- The 911 thing has zero significance to me (been there done that with most supercar badges on the drive)

I can perfectly understand people wanting to aspire to a 911 and I would encourage anyone to tick that box. But the statement "its not a 911" just makes me chuckle. For some the 911 will be a better drivers car, for others its a cayman, they are different and to me for example the 981 GTS spec is a peach and no none GT water cooled 911 sounds as good / is as addictive to drive on everyday roads Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:
To balance things out a bit I chose a boxster over a 911. I had no bias other than I just wanted the car that would give me the most fun. My basic requirement was a weekend car convertible.

The boxster GTS won hands down compared to the 911 both in terms of fun to drive and the noise it made (which is a major part of the experience for me).

There where some major factors I did not need to consider though which may be relevant to me :

- I did not need 4 seats (even if 2 are only suitable for occasional use)
- The 911 thing has zero significance to me (been there done that with most supercar badges on the drive)

I can perfectly understand people wanting to aspire to a 911 and I would encourage anyone to tick that box. But the statement "its not a 911" just makes me chuckle. For some the 911 will be a better drivers car, for others its a cayman, they are different and to me for example the 981 GTS spec is a peach and no none GT water cooled 911 sounds as good / is as addictive to drive on everyday roads Thumb


But you have a 911 as well! Grin
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:


The phrase "The Cayman is a great car but it's not a 911" carries a lot less sway nowadays.


The 911 is a great car but it's not a Cayman.

I honestly can't see why you would choose a 911 over a Cayman apart from the extra rear seats.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will probably get shot by 911 forum members for these comments but here goes Smile

A few friends have asked why im spending all this cash on a 911 my reply was "well most people think im a ***** so the 911 confirms it" tongue in cheek

Well why do i want one, it is without doubt an aspiration and has been for many years.

In my opinion there is no other car that offers that classic shape and proven pedigree, is there a more recognized silhouette i dont think so

I want a car that makes me feel like i have achieved something and says ive done well for myself

Having driven competitive front wheel drive tarmac rally cars for 20 years i want to get behind the wheel of a car that challenges me

Hearing the Cayman S start up i was sooooo excited i cant wait to get in my 911 with PSE

Hopefully the car is sorted just waiting to get the deal signed

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like your sorted Kev, But I thought it was Audi drivers who were ####s
I have always considered myself to be far worse than that , which is why I got a 911 Floor Floor
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