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isysman
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 Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:14 pm Post subject: French toll charges
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Just got my bill from the Sanef Liber-t tolls. I was only in France for a week. Drove from Spain to Monaco, then to French Alps and then to Reims and Calais.
I was expecting about £60-80 but the bill was... ahem £220!
Ay caramba! I wasn't expecting that much. How do French people afford this all the time?
Is there a higher fee for using these tags or something?
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Alex
Le Mans
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No, that's the standard rate. You can do your homework before you go and price up the route. I think michelin do it on their route planner. French don't tour between monaco, manchester and madrid. Calais to Nice is usually around 80 euros each way but the exchange rate hasn't helped.
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G2
Barcelona
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: French toll charges
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[quote="isysman"]
How do French people afford this all the time?
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Only a small proportion of traffic uses them just like the M6 toll here..ie the locals use them at really peak periods when the route nationals are bonkers busy such as peak holidays...or when they drive mega distances on holiday etc.
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Johnd52
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I have found that it is a question of time. Travelling to the South, if you have time available, the cost of a two day trip off motorway, with a nice stop over, is about the same as legging it on the autoroute and paying tolls.
It does make me question the free use of motorways that foreign registered vehicles get in U.K. They don't even get money from the dart crossing if popular belief ifs correct.
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Alex
Le Mans
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If you weigh up the mpg gain, time saving and hassle, the auto routes aren't that bad. Use the RNs across country and you need to factor in a stopover.
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mikeluke
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:15 am Post subject:
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Mange tout, Rodney. Mange tout
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PeterS
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Go on the twisties.
Thats what your car was born for.
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segart
Nürburgring
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I am still waiting for Sanef to charge me for about 1700 kms of motorway driving two weeks ago. Do you think they have forgotten about me?
Rick
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Alex
Le Mans
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:36 pm Post subject:
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If its with a tag itll be on next months statement.
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Jonny996
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in the summer, I came back from Alps via the Porsche Museum, the lack of road tolls on the return journey paid for the overnight hotel in Stuttgart. Might do the MB museum next year.
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Rhodris-dad
Hockenheim
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: French toll charges
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| isysman wrote: | Just got my bill from the Sanef Liber-t tolls. I was only in France for a week. Drove from Spain to Monaco, then to French Alps and then to Reims and Calais.
I was expecting about £60-80 but the bill was... ahem £220!
Ay caramba! I wasn't expecting that much. How do French people afford this all the time?
Is there a higher fee for using these tags or something? |
Silver lining.........at least you didn't get charged (foreign transaction) by the bank for using your debit card at every toll 
The French don't have to pay £500 road tax like us.
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Rhodris-dad
Hockenheim
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:36 pm Post subject:
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[t the exchange rate hasn't helped.[/quote]
I reckon the rate change has cost me in the region of £2k in the last 2 hols to France (wine supplies included)
Brexit....the only thing to of happened since the vote, is the exchange rate has collapsed 
Whoops! Am I opening a can of worms here?
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segart
Nürburgring
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:21 pm Post subject:
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Apart from a week in the Alps in January i will be giving the Euro zone a very wide berth until and if the exchange rate recovers.
They may not miss us but they will miss our tourist spend.
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mikeluke
Albert Park
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I've just done my calculation for next year's skiing holiday - about 75euro each way. For those interested in some historical data (and to show that exchange rates are not purely driven by Brexit) here are the rough GBP to Euro rates in September of each year
2009 1.09
2010 1.18
2011 1.15
2012 1.26
2013 1.19
2014 1.28
2015 1.36
2016 1.16
2017 1.14
Few 'bumper' years in there for the Brits, but people seem to forget that it has been up and down quite a lot over the years....
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pzero
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Interesting info there.
Euro hooning in 2014/15 was definitely much cheaper on the fuel spends, especially when racking up 2500+ miles, much of it twisty and elevated.
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PeterS
Fuji
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:30 pm Post subject:
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My receipts are in my 'tin of denial' so I've no idea what it cost.
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Graemep
Nürburgring
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This year's driving in France was limited to Calais-Reims-Dijon, with the very last bit being Dijon towards Champagnole so we could take a more scenic route towards Geneva. Grand total for that was £56..
I also had an Italian toll tag, and for the route from the St. Bernard Pass-Turin-Genoa-Pisa-Florence-Bologna-Venice-Bolzano racked up approx £80-85 in tolls - so cheaper per mile for the Autostrada.
Still, both were relatively hassle-free and a lot less traffic than you would normally see on the M-roads in the UK.
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Alex
Le Mans
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:58 am Post subject:
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Just paid mine. Calais to St Tropez on the autoroutes is around £83 each way.
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