It's done the miles, no way of getting away from that.
The engine is ~30k from a full rebuild and the rest of the car has been refreshed over that period, would it make any difference to talk up the restoration element?
I suspect the answer is no and that people will go on the mileage, and T8's post is I'm rather afraid spot on.
I have put it on VT etc, the chap who offered 5.5 for mine then went on to buy a car with no MOT(!) for £4,200 was from VT.
Dammit Watkins Glen
Joined: 23 Sep 2016 Posts: 2234
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:58 am Post subject:
And then all of a sudden I had two emails on Sunday from people wanting to view the car.
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Dammit Watkins Glen
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:42 pm Post subject:
Chap turned up tonight, very nice fellow, we looked round the car, went for a drive - he had a huge grin on his face after we found a straight, empty bit of road and gave the traffic behind us something of a surprise.
After a little horse trading we settled on 7k, which is a little low but he seems a genuine enthusiast.
He's now going to assemble the cash and transfer it and we'll then sort out the paperwork.
NickHappy Nürburgring
Joined: 27 Apr 2014 Posts: 442 Location: W.Sussex
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:52 pm Post subject:
Dammit wrote:
Chap turned up tonight, very nice fellow, we looked round the car, went for a drive - he had a huge grin on his face after we found a straight, empty bit of road and gave the traffic behind us something of a surprise.
After a little horse trading we settled on 7k, which is a little low but he seems a genuine enthusiast.
He's now going to assemble the cash and transfer it and we'll then sort out the paperwork.
Nice work - I hope it gets concluded for you, what's VT by the way?? _________________ 997 turbo Manual.
996 turbo Manual. ex.
Dammit Watkins Glen
Joined: 23 Sep 2016 Posts: 2234
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:26 pm Post subject:
Thanks! Volvo Tuning - group on Facebook.
Chap has now requested some time to think about it, which I'm ok with - got the other chap coming on Thursday, so if this one falls through there's a backup. It that one falls through as well I'll sell it next year for 20 large (this may not happen).
Good news Dammit on the potential buyers, hopefully one of them buys it. Were they from the VT group or outside of that bit of the enthusiast network? _________________ Garage:
2004 996.2 C2
2008 Alfa Spider
2016 Evoque
1987 Escort RS Turbo
Countless spares and push bikes
Past Porsche: 1983 924
Dammit Watkins Glen
Joined: 23 Sep 2016 Posts: 2234
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:10 am Post subject:
He saw the add on Car and Classic.
Jackzi Silverstone
Joined: 30 Aug 2015 Posts: 122 Location: Sussex
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:39 pm Post subject:
Quick update: the search still goes on and the budget keeps increasing.
I've taken to the C4S now as the targas I've seen didn't really float my boat (or at the very least a coupé - C2 or C4).
Perfect timing as now that I'm keen on a C4S, the prices start climbing higher.
I drove a tiptronic yesterday (this is the second one I've tried now) and must admit to not having disliked it as much as the first time around. I spent more time with it and I reckon it could be a laugh with the AMG paddles fitted. Or maybe it was the sound from the PSE that swayed me.
I know there have been quite a few 'looking for a C4S' threads recently (which I've looked at), but if anyone knows of one for sale that's not to be found in the usual places online, drop me a line _________________ 997 Carrera 4S
BMW E39 530i Sport
Jonny996 Trainee
Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Posts: 62
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:13 pm Post subject:
I've always found that word of mouth is the best way, do you have a Porsche Indy you use, have you asked him if he knows anyone that's thinking of selling
Niall996 Imola
Joined: 07 Nov 2010 Posts: 843 Location: Paris
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:34 pm Post subject:
Jackzi wrote:
But it still hurts to think that a 'regular' 996 is now 20k considering what the prices were like a couple of years ago.
Will it stay that way is the crystal ball question.
Are they really 20K now? I don't check that often but i would have thought maybe 15K for an early (some say the best) 3.4. And while there are cheap cars out there, they're probably pretty rough and need a few grand in the short term, or tip convertibles. If you try to find a 3.4 manual 2wd they seem hard enough to find at all.
So the question the OP asks is, why is it so hard to buy? I would reverse that. Should people really be able to expect to buy a brilliant car like a 996, 175mph, sub 5 secs 0-60, legendary handling and driving pleasure, a tremendous heritage, bullet proof reliability for it's category, and we can now add a host of vanishing wonders like the internal combustion engine, simple, analogue driving controls, a thing of beauty, something you could pass down in the future and something with appreciating values - should people really expect to be able to walk out there and pick up a shining immaculate example for 15K? Or even 20K? And above. Just as we're looking back at 20K turbos now, in a year or two, that practically hand rebuilt RPM Technik 996 for 25K will seem like such a bargain.
Jackzi Silverstone
Joined: 30 Aug 2015 Posts: 122 Location: Sussex
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:06 am Post subject:
I agree Niall. Hence why my 15k budget has gone out of the window.
I was blinded by the fact that a decent one was to be had for that money three years ago. And now I realise what a bargain that was.
Having driven several 996s now, there's not much that comes close.
Regardless of whether it's a 15k car that needs a lot of work or a 23k car that's ready to go.
It has to be a 3.6 for me, however. _________________ 997 Carrera 4S
BMW E39 530i Sport
Jackzi Silverstone
Joined: 30 Aug 2015 Posts: 122 Location: Sussex
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:22 am Post subject:
Word of mouth hasn't borne much fruit, sadly.
I've asked around and some indys have said that people are keeping hold of them because of the increase in values.
I'll keep trying though. Or I'll just end up buying the C4S tip I drove and be done with it
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cheshire911 Estoril
Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Posts: 3835
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:34 pm Post subject:
You might like to consider a sourcing Specialst who will go and find the car you want. Two spring to mind that I explored when buying the Turbo but I didn't go with either of them for my own reasons that the offering did not meet my requirements and the model I wanted the specialist to work to.
The two I spoke to were:
1. Adrian Crawford (now trades as Crawford Williams).
2. Peter Morgan (not sure he does sourcing any more)
I also had email with P. Raby - had some good Turbo cars at that time but not comfortable with his prices (at that time)
Options to consider and decide if it might be suitable for you. I spoke to the first two on the phone after reading their website.
I do not endorse any of these persons as I never used them but they may be worth a phone call for the OP. _________________ 996 2002 X50 Turbo Manual
"Once bitten; forever smitten"
Bluebird911 Nürburgring
Joined: 29 May 2010 Posts: 453
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:29 pm Post subject:
I too would consider a Sourcing Specialist if you can't source what you want. It could save a lot of frustrated journeys around the country.
They source from their contacts in the business and have access to good quality stock. I used Phil Raby 9 years ago and I thought I got a good deal all things considered. Not only that, these guys have driven a huge number of Porsches and can tell a good one, or one that isn't running quite as it should. It would be difficult for someone driving a Porsche for the first time to determine. Through this knowledge and experience, they can fund their own fee through negotiating with the seller.
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