Senoj said:
It seems with GT cars there's those that want to drive them and those that want to invest in them. Fair do's.
Did this one sell?
As a driver, early 50's leaves a contingency. I don't think its a 57k car personally.
When most people buy a GT3 they are buying a dream car, they don't want to have to explain and justify themselves about the high miles to all their pals and then worry about residual values and the difficulties of selling something like this later on. Imagine in the pub with mates. "I just bought a GT3!" Says new owner. "You jammy lucky feccker" says pals, "how much, what colour, is it a CS, how many miles" says pals. "150k miles" says new owner. "Blimey" says pals....thinking is he bonkers? Even the chap who bought it last time was compelled to post a "blog" to help corroborate his decision:lol: and that diss appeared pretty quickly. There are others, a small ish group, who want to drive a car like this and experience the whole "thing" and see the value from that perspective.
Well it's an interesting perspective, though not one I'm sure I concur with ....
But let me say here and now, I've never felt the need to justify my car purchases to anyone, be they mates. family, forum contributors et all. And I certainly wouldn't feel the need to justify their value, mileage, spec or colour, because quite frankly I don't give a jot what others think.
But furthermore a GT2/3/RS is still that, irrespective of the speedometer reading.
By your rationale a 50k mile CGT with an impeccable service history/folder would be inferior in the minds of your mates down the pub, than an identical though lower mileage car ?
In reality, given the choice between driving around in a 70k mile GT2 or a 10k miles 2 year old E46 M3, I'd take the GT2 all day every day. I may be in the minority in this, but having been around the block a few times with Mezger engined GT cars, I tend to trust my judgement when it comes to "leggy" cars.
Back in 2010 I bought Gavin's old 996 GT2. Considered by lots (mainly internet/keyboard forum "experts") to be a bit "leggy" at 68k miles (IIRC) and 8 years old.
An original panel, totally standard, Basalt black car that had been fettled by Parr and serviced religiously, it cost me the princely sum of just under £35K....
And FWIW recently sold by 911 Sport for close to £90k .....
Five years previously I'd paid £55k for a 12k mile Midnight Blue Comfort spec 996 GT2. The car was immaculate, indeed when I placed it on SOR with Tom at 911 Virgin 3 years later (with 32K miles on it) he commented the interior was the best condition he'd ever seen in a 996.
There was only one fly in the ointment, the previous (and only) owner, a very wealthy individual who'd tracked the car, had little or no talent behind the wheel whatsoever, and as result he'd "abused" it to the degree he'd seen off two sets of PCCB's in 12k miles ! !
With hindsight that wasn't THAT surprising, the car handled appallingly, so no doubting the brakes got a severe workout every time it went on track.
Before buying Gavin's old GT2, I got Mike Burke at Sports and Classic to do an inspection on it. He found a few issues, tired, leaking dampers, exhaust manifold to turbo bolts corroded and close to the point of failure (they did) and a corroded/leaking PAS pipe. He also test drove it and said it was "evil"
Despite it's tired (though well set up, by Parr) suspension, it drove and handled superbly, and far, far better than the lower mileage, "abused" Midnight blue car I'd previously owned.
My guess is there's plenty of low mileage 997 GT3s out there that have been similarly "abused" by owners with more enthusiasm than skill (or indeed those mistaking ambition for ability).
Which would you rather own ? a 997 GT3 that's been driven vast mileages on the motorway by one sympathetic owner (and which has been his only mode of intercontinental transport) or a similar car that's been owned and tracked by 3 or 4 trackday "warriors" with more enthusiasm than skill. And let us not forget, the car we're talking about has zero overrevs in ANY of it's rev ranges ...
Abused Midnight blue low mileage GT2, or Gavin's 70k mile sympathetically driven, well maintained car ?
Low miles, occasionally thrashed track slag at £90k ? or perfectly driven and maintained mega miles road car at £58k ? For clarity, that's a £32k "saving"....
I'll let you decide :?: