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madge
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:52 pm    Post subject: Airchamber for 993 Reply with quote

This autumnal weather we're having has got me thinking towards my car's winter lay-up.

As my garage is dusty and I'm not keen on fitted covers I'm quite interested in an airchamber. This is the rigid type not the inflatable bubble.

Has anyone got one for their 993 and what size did you get? The website indicates that 'small' is the size to get but it would be reassuring to get some real-world confirmation that it is the correct size before I buy.

Also, is the quality decent? I don't want something that's going to fall apart after one use.

Many thanks.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want one pm me and I'll put you in touch with a mate who is the supplier of these. I had one for my Sunbeam lotus. Very sturdy, thick vinyl and work ok. If you were driving in and out regular they can be a faff zipping up/down but if you lock it away for months it's fine.
I've gone the other way and sealed my garage now and put a rotary dessicant dehumidifier in there set at 50% rh wh8ch works well.
Either way is fine for storage just disconnect battery
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also heard that with these Carcoon type setups that if there is any moisture hidden in the car that it may start/accelerate corrosion. How true this is is open to debate I guess. Good luck with the search.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the greatest respect, this is surely the first waypoint on the road to insanity??!!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would it be? If you don't drive in winter and want to maintain a pristine car then do it under controlled humidity and temperature ie like most serious classic car collectors would. If you keep the humidity around 40% and temperature changes to a minimum your chances of corrosion are lower. Obviously these are no good for daily or weekly drivers however.
Some kind chap spent 7 yrs restoring my previous classic, and when I sold it 3 yrs later there wasn't any evidence of a rusty bolt or fastener never mind any panel rot in a car known for falling apart at the first sign of damp Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

highway wrote:
With the greatest respect, this is surely the first waypoint on the road to insanity??!!


I thought they could be obtained through the Illuminati office shop Dont know Standard issue to 993 owners surely Grin
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...... now ..... now Zingers ...... be good ...... Wink
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought he was still trying to find his path to Wales, where he was meeting us? The illuminati were assembled and ready for his interview
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

..... I think he was frightened of having to open his wallet ...... Wink

........ and yes we were all waiting in excited anticipation for true valuations of our 993s ....... Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisT70 wrote:
If you want one pm me and I'll put you in touch with a mate who is the supplier of these. I had one for my Sunbeam lotus. Very sturdy, thick vinyl and work ok. If you were driving in and out regular they can be a faff zipping up/down but if you lock it away for months it's fine.
I've gone the other way and sealed my garage now and put a rotary dessicant dehumidifier in there set at 50% rh wh8ch works well.
Either way is fine for storage just disconnect battery

Thanks for that Chris. Very useful. I'll be in touch if I do decide to go for one. Thumb


Jet Jock wrote:
I've also heard that with these Carcoon type setups that if there is any moisture hidden in the car that it may start/accelerate corrosion.

The sales pitch says that a fan keeps air moving through the chamber and actually removes moisture. Dont know


highway wrote:
With the greatest respect, this is surely the first waypoint on the road to insanity??!!

Surely a touch of insanity is a prerequisite for 993 ownership? puh Out
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What they don't say in adverts is that the quality of the air that they circulate is key. I had my car in one of these in a barn over one winter and returned to it with the interior covered in mould. The air it was circulating was clearly quite damp.

Fast forward to the following winter, and I had the barn spray foam insulated and stored it the same way: no mould to speak of.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a great idea. I have several cars stored at a facility which uses Carcoons. Totally agree about the humidity. Seem to remember 50% is ideal. This humidity prevents rust but stops leather and rubber drying out too much apparently.

Having said that, I am also going for a sealed garage with Calorex dehumidifiers installed.

Hope this does not qualify me for Zingari's Illuminati membership? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer the OP's question, I have an air chamber, it is 5m by 2.2M it is longer than necessary and you could get away with a smaller size but the extra 20cm width means you can always get out of the car if you drive in without unzipping the side flap. Mine is parked in a normal UK, dampish, garage. I have never had a mould problem and I love the fact that if I put the car away clean it comes out clean. I have been using it for over 10 years and it is just starting to disintegrate. I will definitely be replacing it although I may be buying a Cair-O-Port as I like the fact that the frame is outside. Hope this helps.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two cair o port and haven't been impressed with the quality. I'm in the market shortly and won't be buying another.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks harryK, good to know.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

993tt wrote:
To answer the OP's question, I have an air chamber, it is 5m by 2.2M it is longer than necessary and you could get away with a smaller size but the extra 20cm width means you can always get out of the car if you drive in without unzipping the side flap. Mine is parked in a normal UK, dampish, garage. I have never had a mould problem and I love the fact that if I put the car away clean it comes out clean. I have been using it for over 10 years and it is just starting to disintegrate. I will definitely be replacing it although I may be buying a Cair-O-Port as I like the fact that the frame is outside. Hope this helps.


Thanks 993tt. I think that particular size might be a problem for my garage due to an up-and-over door, but it's good to hear that yours has performed well over quite a lengthy period of time. Thumb
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