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993 C4S @ £120k with 59k miles

I just don't see that particular car as a "collectors'" car even though it's priced as such (and a bit more).

Surely a collector/investor would want ultra-low mileage and a stronger colour combo for true investment potential. My impression of collectors is that they look for iconic pieces to store in their air-conditioned warehouses and dark blue/brown just doesn't scream iconic to me. Silver, black, guards red, rivera - yes, but not dark blue.

It looks a nice enough car but nothing special, apart from the price. It seems like a good enthusiast's car but why would an enthusiast pay over the odds for it? :?:
 
I think collector as a term has changed shape quite a bit over the years. You imagine someone with a climate controlled hanger with a selection of the very best rare and low use specimens. In reality these days it is applied to just about anyone who has more than one hobby car.

This is a smart looking car and Paragon likely know what they are doing and will find a buyer without breaking a sweat.

Agree the price is high given the miles and colour combo, but still if it's a good one people seem to be willing to pay. They don't come up too often these days. Plus the Blue on Toffee isn't the worst combination; It actually presents well here.

I remember in 2009 buying my first S from Paragon and everyone saying I was mental for paying £36k :grin:
 
The question which hasn't been asked, at least for a while, is what 'an enthusiast' will pay in today's market for a 993.

Personally I can't see any 993 derivative with much over 30k miles being worth over £100k. But clearly the wider market sees different. How many people want a wide body 993, without collector low miles, enough to trouser £100k plus? Those who this type of performance car really appeals to and who have the means to stump up £100k plus must be few
In number??
 
Who knows. Even with very low demand the number of cars available is lower still and the indicated prices keep going higher.

I've always said the ceiling for my car must be about £100k I just can't see why anyone would pay north of that for a 993 no matter how difficult to find. But then look at some of the Ferrari's. Pretty poor cars by modern standards, yet they sell for lots and lots.

The price debate runs and runs, but I guess the thing we have that the buyers usually won't have is owners insight. I remember that burning desire to own a 993 as I am sure you do. It's a powerful force!
 
the type of person who will pay £100k or more for it (and they will) is unlikely to visit this forum and chat, thats for sure. lots of guys with cash dont mess about themselves with cars and will be guided by specialist suppliers pricing etc. it wont be for sale still in 6 months you watch.
 
:dont know:

Thats a turbo........

Different market to me and although they have always attracted a premium over WB NA it will be interesting how that is maintained. Personally I think the gap with close over time based on personal experiece ie I did not want a Turbo as I much prefer the noise and power delivery of the NA engine. The high net worth individuals I know who have recently got into 993's wanted manual and N/A. They have plenty of faster, more exotic metal to drive and so the extra turbo power simply is not the appeal to them like it used to me when these cars where younger.

There are lots of people who also prefer the 993 looks without the rear spoiler which from most angles spoils the lines IMHO.
 
That turbo has been for sale for close to two years, strange refurb on it and I believe that's why its never sold, in my view.
 
ChrisT70 said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-993/1995-porsche-911-3-6-2dr/7092623
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Ow! my eyes... :eek:
 
highway said:
The question which hasn't been asked, at least for a while, is what 'an enthusiast' will pay in today's market for a 993.
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25 bags for me :thumb:

I'm not sure the reckoning buyers would not entertain a 993 for less than £50k but will when they're in excess of that price :dont know: You either like the car for what it is or you don't and then store it away as an investment which doesn't float my boat.

The elephant in the room here is what was it traded at which is where the real price lies :dont know:

It might sell to someone with a disposable amount of cash who fancies some fun. Sort of thing my chum would buy over the phone if it took his fancy, but they don't as they're too 'analogue'. Plus he learnt his lesson buying an AMV8 convertible in canary yellow over the phone believing the bull it was the 'sought after' colour. However when it turned up it was a manual and he wanted an automatic. Trying to sell it on was hard work due to the colour. :frustrated:

Tan interior with white dials kills this car.
 
But C2S nearly twice as rare based on total production.
Lets call the C4S the Prince of Porsches, OK?

The king has RWD :)
 
Plus the more delightful public transport style vinyl trim :grin:
 
jpsand993c2s said:
But C2S nearly twice as rare based on total production.
Lets call the C4S the Prince of Porsches, OK?

The king has RWD :)
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:hand: Not in RHD, 4S are much rarer in the UK, the Americans loved the 2S....erm due to the auto box which was not an option on the 4S :roll:
 
dommorton said:
Plus the more delightful public transport style vinyl trim :grin:
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I just take the full leather for granted but you can't beat the smell of old leather and oil :grin:
 
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