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segart
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:39 pm    Post subject: Refreshing suspension parts - Design 911 or standard Porsche Reply with quote

Hi guys,
I have the odd clonk from the undersides which tells me that I might need some fresh bushes etc on the suspension ('03 C4s 53k miles). The question is; should I stick with standard replacement Porsche parts, or might I get better quality, at a lower price even, from someone like Design 911?
Any advice much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say shop around.

Over the winter i replaced every single arm and bush on the suspension of my 996, some with genuine OE, some with TRW and some with Meyle. It depending on what it was and where i was fitting it.

I got brand new GT3 lower arms with inners bought from one place and outers bought from another, for £360 for the pair, they retail at £900+.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

segart,

This may be of help/interest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KLBGVClpX0
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Smithy and I will check that out.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a serious suspension refresh as shown in the video. Design 911 also know what they are talking about. Four grand for parts alone, plus labour, is a hefty investment but I guess worth it if you have the spare cash.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need £4k

https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/porsche/911-996/8696/10671/steering-links-control-arm-trailing-link-diagonal-arm

https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/porsche/911-996/8696/10835/mounting-suspension-strut

£1200 will buy you ALL arms- Coffin, forked, rear track, rear doggone, and front top mounts.

Don't forget inner and outer front track rod ends.

(TRW / SACHS are the OE makers so look for those)

http://www.carnewal.com/products/P96/p96206/Bilstein-B4-Shocks-for-P96C2

Bilstein B4 are OE shocks

€680 euro for all 4 shocks.

Probably another £100 for the bolts you will have to cut off and sundries from Porsche, a day in the workshop and a £50 geo setup.

Your car will drive like new for £2k.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just noticed you are c4s not c2. Well the shocks are 40 euro more expensive, and you need to get 997 top mounts as they are much cheaper than 996 c4s.

But yet get the idea. These don't have to be mega money cars. Any decent mechanic can work on them, no need to pay OPC or indy rates for a suspension swap.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top posts Wasz! Thumb

I'm also a proponent of running these cars well and giving them what they need but not breaking the bank to do it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasz wrote:
You don't need £4k

https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/porsche/911-996/8696/10671/steering-links-control-arm-trailing-link-diagonal-arm

https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/porsche/911-996/8696/10835/mounting-suspension-strut

£1200 will buy you ALL arms- Coffin, forked, rear track, rear doggone, and front top mounts.

Don't forget inner and outer front track rod ends.

(TRW / SACHS are the OE makers so look for those)

http://www.carnewal.com/products/P96/p96206/Bilstein-B4-Shocks-for-P96C2

Bilstein B4 are OE shocks

€680 euro for all 4 shocks.

Probably another £100 for the bolts you will have to cut off and sundries from Porsche, a day in the workshop and a £50 geo setup.

Your car will drive like new for £2k.


Will these fit a 996 turbo?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P911X50 wrote:
Will these fit a 996 turbo?


Of course, the turbo has the same suspension arms as c4/c4s, i think only the gt3 has the adjustable coffin arms.

You'll need to get the correct shocks though which are more expensive.
http://www.carnewal.com/Suspension#P96Turbo

Some people on here have found the bush in Meyle brand arms a little softer than genuine TRW made originals.

This isn't noticeable on a Carrera, but the extra power of a turbo highlights it under hard acceleration on the rear arms.

The fix is to fill the voids in the bush with a low cost elastomer material.

Have a search, your mileage may vary.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for that info Wasz, that is brilliant stuff! I am on 54k miles and will be upgrading over the coming months with a small local outfit doing the work. Thanks again, cheers Rick
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