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madalaa
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1995 Porsche 993 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:33 am    Post subject: Door checks ........ Reply with quote

......... mine has decided to fail ....... not a catastrophic failure but the dreaded click and a slight movement from where it joins the door frame ...... what's the going rate for a proper repair job?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam will weld that and not charge you a fortune either. My repair still all good 3 years on.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam did mine both of mine. Had the panels chopped out iirc and new welded in. It wasn't cheap, but not massively expensive either.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Sam will be my first port of call ........
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cris at 911 RRR Wembley, found him through various threads, he is a superb fabricator, and knows this part of the car intimately.

IIRC £350 per side, reinforces them as well, wouldn't know the area had been touched, apart from the fact the annoying click click has gone.

Top man.
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madalaa
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ........
 
  
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dommorton
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you have seen the cracked and torn mount points inside the pillar when these fail, you'll surely want a proper thorough internal fix carried out. All the strength is derived from attaching the bracket to the back of the panel farthest away from the door. Some have perfected techniques to carefully open the pillar to carry out keyhole surgery to beef up the welds. You can then have a small hidden slug hidden under the bracket on the outside to help keep things still and prevent future fatigue setting in.

Proper fix means door off ideally, but that's not as involved as it may seem.

Done properly I can't see this ever being an issue again.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly want it done properly .........
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have theory about why these fail?

Is it poor design, or bouncing the open door at its fully open position, etc?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The basic design of the strap is as old as the hills. With the doors getting heavier over the years and with many unknowing owners swinging the door to the stop, the poor little spot welded plate eventually rips free.

Unlike most of the 993, this part seems to have only been engineered to a high enough spec to last approx 18 years of heavy use/abuse before failing Grin
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My car is 22 year old ........ it was only matter of time before it was bound to happen ....... lol ...... Wink
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just in case Andy ...

Mine was making a clicking noise about 5 years ago .. I had it over at Hartech for servicing and they diagnosed a slightly worn hinge pin. Quick change out and all was fine again, and has been ever since ..
You could be lucky!!?
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madalaa
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there barney ....... I can see movement in the strap at the pillar end so I pretty sure it is failing.
 
  
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Cameltoe & Heel
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at my resto post on this very subject, just had both sides done on mine properly.

The pics should give you a very idea of the work involved and the state of the welds.

I've also bought new hinges, nuts and pins to be sure Smile

Trev
 
  
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madalaa
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ct & H ....... that is am awesome thread you have going there ...... you are a brave man ....... and thanks for that input re door check straps ....... it looks expensive?
 
  
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Cameltoe & Heel
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madalaa wrote:
Ct & H ....... that is am awesome thread you have going there ...... you are a brave man ....... and thanks for that input re door check straps ....... it looks expensive?


Well I've had mine done whilst it's in the body shop, so not that bad but I can imagine if you dropped your car in specifically to have the job done then yes, quite a bit of fabrication to do as well as paint touch up.

IMO worth doing right

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madalaa
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trev ....... what you are doing must be costing the proverbial arm and leg ....... worship
 
  
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