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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:19 pm    Post subject: What Oil? (Again, probably) Reply with quote

I want to buy some oil for my 996 Carrera 2 and some more for the 996 Turbo. Yes, I know they don't use the same oil, but wanted your input.

I only usually use Mobil, so that limits my choices, so where is the best place to get it from?

Over to you guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: What Oil? (Again, probably) Reply with quote

TJW964 wrote:
Yes, I know they don't use the same oil, but wanted your input.


Really?

Carparts4less using their home page discount code is usually cheapest.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought one was 0 and one 10, or something. Need to order some before I go off to Germany, again. Did it last year too, but thought I'd see who was doing the best prices at the moment.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are as many opinions as there are brands of oil...
some swear blind on the Millers Nanodrive stuff, some on Mobil 1
The turbo and N/A use the same oil, as far as I know, though?

I use Gulf Formula ULE 5w-40 myself...

Check that it's Porsche A40 compliant and go from there! Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used the Millers Nano 10/50 for last year.

Car still needed regular top ups (e.g. Usage didn't go down ), and temperatures and pressures didn't seem any different to running on Mobil.
Though took longer to warm up.

Oil change tomorrow , and going back to the mainstream stuff.

Millers is a PITA in terms of availability. Stresses me out knowing that I can't just call into local petrol station to pick some up should car need some. Had to take a litre to Germany last year just in case.

Also , it's more expensive and can never take advantage of the regular discounts on ECP for instance.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't the question "Where's the best placd to get Mobil from?"
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my Mobil from ECP when they had one of their weekly sales on, they have one every week so don't worry if you miss one! Think I got 40% off.
My Turbo seems to have a thirst for it so I always keep a few litres in the frunk.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do yourself a favour - Millers Nano from Opie Oils. Thumb

Its the very best for your P&J


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Millers Nano all the way used it for two years zero oil usage etc
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another for Millers Nano.. the very best IMO
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine starts better and runs more smoothly on Nano 10W-50.

Never loses a drop, either.

Mobil 5W-40 doesn't exactly have a faultless history of protecting engines....
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get ***** about brands, I just use 0 or 5W-40 fully synthetic and change it every 3000 miles without fail. Opie oils have plenty of good deals on oil, and Design911 do sometimes as well.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I care more about grade and spec than brand. I'd rather run older engines on 10/50 which really narrows it down. I'm not a cheapskate but ditching £130 worth of millers every spring even if the car has done a thousand miles gets a bit annoying, although it's still all I've used for years.
I'll be letting my Indy chuck some of his stuff in for this year as I won't get to use car much. Next spring it will get 10/50 millers again. The only reason I pay that price is that there isn't a similar 10-50 for less money.

I don't believe for one minute though that anyone can feel or prove that millers is better from an owners perspective. By that I mean without lab testing etc.
If your engine runs great and hasn't gone bang maybe it would have with other oil in too.
Likewise if an engine goes bang with other stuff in, prove it wouldn't have if it was on millers.

I almost bought 2 lots of this the other week. Very similar specs to millers 10/50 but when speaking to company they said they could not say it was or wasn't suitable as it's primary use is in Motorsport.
It's API SJ which is an oldish spec but perfectly age related to mk1 996s being from around 1999.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381965690806


API SH or SJ is ideal apparently, some newer specs have less of the old type additives for certain materials in our engines.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1807445


Anyway I decided why take a risk with an unknown to save £60 but I do begrudge paying £130 for oil. Clever marketing and regularly plugged by Hartech though.

I'd love to hear from anyone who's found a correct spec 10/50 that isn't millers. Not bothered about Porsche approved, just correct spec. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't the point of the race oil that it will last longer and not degrade with heat cycling, so by paying 3 times as much for this longevity and then chucking after 1 year or 5000 miles aren't you wasting money....my view either use the standard stuff and change annually or pay more and keep it for longer?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5lts of Mobil 1 is £38.86 with the new discount code at ECP.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought 2x5L Millers 10W 50 NT+ which is this years latest spec from here. Cheapest price and great service.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Millers-CFS-10w-50-NT-Full-Synthetic-Car-Engine-Oil-5-LITRES-5L-7964-/201402210171?hash=item2ee481d77b:g:-bgAAOSw9GhYi1pE
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marky911 wrote:

I'd love to hear from anyone who's found a correct spec 10/50 that isn't millers. Not bothered about Porsche approved, just correct spec. Thumb


What do you mean by spec? API? ACEA? porsche A40?

Fuchs do a good 10w-50. Used to be called Silkstone Pro S. I think it's now Fuchs Titan Syn Pro S. A decent Ester fully synthetic oil.

Millers also do cfs in 10w-50 which is cheaper than their nanodrive.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning Monkey, thanks for the suggestions.
Yes I just mean suitable spec for my year of car so ACEA or API. A40 is the approved Porsche list spec so I won't find a 10/50 A40 spec as Porsche don't approve of 10/50 for our engines.

That oil I linked to is perfect spec, API SJ but for some reason the company wouldn't say one way or another.

Anyway like I say I'll go with my Indys stuff for a year then go back to Millers next year.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Opie oils always email offers, I buy Millers when they have a good offer on and then just keep it until I need it. I think they give an additional 5% off your first order as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as above millers nano, not used a drop in 1000miles (115k engine)
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