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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any chance OPC will give me a slot for a new one with my reputation Dont know I'll happily take a PDK spec Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar colour differences here. http://www.pctcars.co.uk/carsforsale/porsche-997-turbo-ii-coupe-38ltr-pdk-2010/328.htm

It's a lovely car tho.

I had a C2S in 2005 bought new in arctic silver. The colour match on that between bumpers and bodywork was imperfect. Silver is a *****.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disco wrote:

But how many miles have you put on it? 30000+ ? More?


No I've done about 9k I think, not going outside to look. I don't think they will refuse to payout because I've not done enough miles. It can be covered until its 15 years old by which time it will have done a good few miles.

I think the Dundon modifications for the 991.1 look interesting too.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Must be time to meet up again Fred. I really would like to hear that engine from the inside Smile


Indeed it must Joe, I'm starting to feel better too so time to get the car out.

I'll look forward to it Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:46 pm    Post subject: sad but true Reply with quote

I'd really like one, though i can imagine once they are out the £110K list price + optional extras + 'flippers reselling' who were lucky to bag one will make this a £140k + car...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FredGT3 wrote:
Jcx wrote:

Must be time to meet up again Fred. I really would like to hear that engine from the inside Smile


Indeed it must Joe, I'm starting to feel better too so time to get the car out.

I'll look forward to it Smile


Ok let's make something happen. Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the Dundon modifications for the 991.1 look interesting too.


This sounds interesting, could you elaborate?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

s2000db wrote:
I fancy a rant, so here goes....

I've been a loyal, though not the most prolific Porsche customer, buying only new, and spending several hundred thousand pounds on their products and services, over the years..

Despite following my dealers advice about to apply for a GT3 I've been told that they're sold out.. For the second time..

This is utter tosh and BS imo, there's no reason that the mighty Porsche/VAG can't produce these cars in unlimited numbers should they so desire, and hence this is restrictive practice, and I'm sure that a decent lawyer could form a case on a EU level against them..

Anyway my pockets aren't that deep, but I bet a class action suit could be very interesting...?

So I can't even beg to own a brand new car, which I'll keep and cherish, yet it appears that serial flippers and bloggers, can get their hands on these things, and profit out of them when they move them on. Thus allowing the dealers to make at least twice the profit on the same vehicle!

Despite my love for the brand, ( I refuse to pay overs for something that's not actually rare) I suspect my relationship with Porsche might be coming to an end, and that there might be better places to spend my £150K with...
Perhaps somewhere that might treat me as a customer and not an irritation, any ideas?

When the interest rates start rising, and sales of these trinkets start to falter, I trust all of you who are affected in a similar matter, remind the dealers who are now chasing you for some business, of how things used to be?

Trust me, what goes round comes round.....

Good luck all... Thumb


+1 Couldn't agree more. Thumb

Slap it into Porsche when previously loyal enthusiasts put their money elsewhere. Just amazes me that this potential outcome has not already been considered by Porsche HQ and volumes consequently adjusted upwards to meet market demand.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im a different position from most of you, never been an owner so totally understand why I'm not getting one. Im in a position now to finally get one but it looks like it'll be a 991.1which aint so bad.
Ive never really had an interest in other marques in this bracket, always been Porsche i like but the way the car market is the now, people are just profiting from these cars and many ltd cars. Im a ford rs man and the way things have gone with that has ruled a lot of enthusiasts out the chances of obtain cars.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jotaking wrote:
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I think the Dundon modifications for the 991.1 look interesting too.


This sounds interesting, could you elaborate?


See here

http://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/969945-dundon-finger-follower-wear-cam-wear-fix-update-and-engine-health-monitoring-intro.html

Crankcase monitoring system looks like a good idea.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disco wrote:
Senoj wrote:
pslot wrote:
cheapest .2 GT3 in Europe/USA is in the UK

USA - USD 144,650 .approx. £118,585
Europe - EUR 152,416. approx. £132,489
UK - £ 111 k

I can understand the US pricing, however the delta between uk and Europe is staggering.
Maybe there was more flipping in Europe than anywhere else in the world.

rates from xe.com at 18.31 on 08/03/2017

If I was Porsche the smallest allocation goes to the UK
.1 prices should remain firm because nobody will get a .2 ! Smile


That looks like a massive bollock drop. Is it the same on the other models? Maybe Porsche uk hasn't caught up with post Brexit sterling yet and are just making less margin. The costs must be the same and in euro you'd assume.


Porsche engage in extensive multi-year currency hedging (all of which came out when the Volkswagen takeover thing was going on) so that is a major factor. As presumably is the different tax treatment of motoring around the world.

That said - prices are sure to go up eventually.


Sooner than later. Every car sold in the uk will be a relatively crap margin so supply will be scarce i think. Trouble is all the models are priced relatively so if they did launch the GT3 at the right money then it would have been about 5k more than a 991 turbo...thus all the current model prices would need to go up to stay aligned. Im sure they have hedged but its unlikely to be that great a deal. Every car coming into the uk is paid for in € so something has to give post brexit £ weakness.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 997 GT3 4.0 certainly looks the business in black........
But 130 miles on the clock from new- utterly pathetic....










http://www.goodingco.com/press/gooding-company-unveils-an-important-private-collection-of-four-limited-production-porsche-supercars-for-its-highly-anticipated-amelia-island-auction-in-march/
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been doing some cyber slacking and seen this...

Quite funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIzOLNzytjM
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4th knock back today!

On to the back up plan...

What would you expect the 991.2 GT3 premium to be?

I wasn't on the pulse for the .1 when it was released. That said, I have seen these as high as 165k?

My guess is 180k for one in November?

Will the 991.1 RS look like a bargain at £190?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jotaking wrote:
4th knock back today!

On to the back up plan...

What would you expect the 991.2 GT3 premium to be?

I wasn't on the pulse for the .1 when it was released. That said, I have seen these as high as 165k?

My guess is 180k for one in November?

Will the 991.1 RS look like a bargain at £190?


Oh, most definitely yes...any RS for that sort by of money is going to be the
ticket.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd agree with that...until the next one comes out Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd agree with that...until the next one comes out Smile


..the next one won't materialise till Geneva 2018, perhaps even later.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick w wrote:
LaSource wrote:
I'd agree with that...until the next one comes out Smile


..the next one won't materialise till Geneva 2018, perhaps even later.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senoj wrote:
nick w wrote:
LaSource wrote:
I'd agree with that...until the next one comes out Smile


..the next one won't materialise till Geneva 2018, perhaps even later.


Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock. Very Happy


Lol...got my dates muddled up, make that Geneva 2019 !..
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been followng this thread with some interest. Is EVO really correct when they report there will be an unlimited supply of 991.2 GT3 cars? If so, why aren't 911.1 GT3 prices softening? The cheapest I've seen is a 2014 model for £119k when a brand new 991.2 is (as reported earlier in this thread) is selling for £111k.

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