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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from what someone is willing to pay for it, what is the consensus on its value?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Apart from what someone is willing to pay for it, what is the consensus on its value?


Given its history...something in the mid to high 40's. Surprised

In fact, if I was the seller, right now, I'd take that sort of offer very seriously.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trade bids on that car would be in the 30s
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering that as the seller now knows the damage history is there not a legal obligation to mention this? Or at least remove any implied fact that it is 'perfect'. Would this be caught under miss-selling of goods, now called consumer rights act...


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuart wrote:
Just wondering that as the seller now knows the damage history is there not a legal obligation to mention this? Or at least remove any implied fact that it is 'perfect'. Would this be caught under miss-selling of goods, now called consumer rights act...


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Stuart, you're bang on...now that they're aware, they surely have to disclose the information.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick w wrote:
Bund wrote:
Apart from what someone is willing to pay for it, what is the consensus on its value?


Given its history...something in the mid to high 40's. Surprised

In fact, if I was the seller, right now, I'd take that sort of offer very seriously.


Ditto, as a damage repaired its worth at most 2/3rds what a clean car would be. And that would be with full repair documentation and Autolign certificate. Things that I'm guessing this car does not have...
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ad has been pulled from pistonheads and ebay. good it should be.

any damage should be declared as its a misleading advert and should be reported to trading standards and the host of the advert.

Pip I would rather not post what she said....I am just glad the cat is out of the bag and that she was trying to mask it as superficial damage and it had a good paint job, and she did not really know much about it etc.

yeah like *****!! its been damaged and your advert is all wrong. its not worth £70k and you won't get it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello to everyone,
I am Emily the owner.
It has recently been brought to my attention that there are various truth's and lie's flying around about this car on here. So here it is:
I bought the car damaged yes. The bumpers and lights were on the car on arrival at the auction facility. Someone removed them, i'm yet to find out who/why.
I had the car inspected by an engineer who assured me there was no chassis damage to the vehicle and it required front and rear bumpers, 1 rear lamp and 1 wheel.
I contacted BBS and some other wheel companies looking for the one replacement but as i'm sure you all know they are very hard to find.
I took advice on which wheels to choose and the general consensus was the factory original GT3 wheels would be best.
I bought 4 which were in near perfect condition minus once small curb mark on one, i send all 4 off to Lepsons for a full re furbish to ensure they were all the exact same colour, finish etc.
There was no suspension damage only it had been loosened and the wheel pushed out. I was advised that this may had been done just after the incident to claim more out of the insurance (speculative opinion) i cannot confirm this.
None of the suspension required replacing.
The rear spoiler had a crack in the carbon and the end plates missing, unsure what was best to buy a new carbon one or an original GT3 one i left it as repaired and matt black. I have since learnt this perhaps is a little 'amateur' to quote on you folks so i have ordered the end plates and will attach.
I also replaced some other minor bits: 1 rear heat shield, 1 chrome exhaust tip, 1 plastic wheel arch liner.
I chose a bodyshop in Brighton who do all the big insurance companies bodywork, one of the higher end, more expensive choices but i wanted to make this car perfect, in fact thats all i wanted to do from the beginning.
i have spent months and months and a lot of money ensuring all of this was done to the highest standard.
I met Ken at 9E who was very helpful and knowledgeable (thank you if you're reading this) and they did a geo check which proved there wasn't any chassis damage whatsoever.

Nick, you contacted me posing as a buyer, you claim you were following the car too which perhaps you can confirm? so i was 100% honest about the damage, i was the one who provided you with the pictures and information you have shared with everyone. At no point did i speak badly to you or tell you to mind your own business (many would) so i am not appreciative of you questioning my honesty. However I wish you all the best with that Porsche you mentioned.

I will add a lot of what i have written to the advert and I am happy to answer any questions from prospective buyers
Thank you
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day, the fact was demonstrated that you were selling and pricing the car as if it was mint condition, which is a serious misrepresentation and a breach of site rules which is why your original 'private' advert from this site was removed and further trade adverts have been discussed. You also misstated the position of Nine Excellence in your advert to their involvement in the car post the repair, which Ken from 9E has now clarified in an earlier post.

As shown from the copart salvage link (from where it was bought after the insurance write off) the damage certainly wasn't up in the realms of where most Copart insurance write off cars end up. However, if you are now claiming that there have been lies quoted, then I suggest you contact to the site by email to clarify these positions.

The GT3 world is very small, the car has been track damaged, which although may not be extensive it is still a damaged & repaired car. Subject to the correct checks it will ready for it's next owner as long as it is priced and described correctly, which to date it has not.
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