bazhart
Barcelona
- Joined
- 20 May 2009
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You will not be surprised that I would like to add a comment.
Firstly I take no pleasure in reading about problems this owner and others have had with the faults they encounter and the unsatisfactory rebuilds elsewhere and I feel a lot of sympathy for the owner, the damage to the marque I love and the affect it has on model values.
What this reveals however is that our posts that warn against the variety of different solutions using ferrous liners that are often short lived and can result in further rebuilds are at least based on experience and not scare mongerring.
Two rebuilds with ferrous liners have (it seems) still not managed to fix the looming problem of bank 1 bores, still not resulted in a reliable engine and involved two different versions/designs of iron liner businesses and further liner sub-contractors (that always makes it difficult to get satisfactory support when things go wrong).
It may very well be that the fault this second time was not related to the liners but it reinforces the need for at least considering the benefits of having a proper rebuild done by the leading experts even if it may cost a little more in the short term.
Our price for 3 liners in one bank is only £1400 +Vat but reduces to £2,500 + Vat for all 6 (effectively just a little more expensive than this second rebuild charged) and provides a best solution with the longest lasting bores that run with any piston coating and provide the best cooling and stable expansion and contraction characteristics that suit this engine type and with the crankcase converted to a closed deck design - later proven reliable by the Gt3 and turbo variants and the Gen 2 engines.
Furthermore because all our work is carried out "IN-HOUSE" - if ever there was a subsequent problem (even if it was or was not caused by us) at least all the negotiating would be with just one supplier - with no opportunity for us to blame others - and we would do our best (as always) to help the owner and keep everyone happy.
Fortunately our reliability record is superb and the fact that we have several dedicated people and facilities doing nothing else but engine repairs and rebuilds daily - enables us to take a more supportive view of any subsequent problems as we are set-up to handle them effectively and quickly.
We have gone to great lengths to explain why we think it is best to adopt the solution we uniquely offer in our new engine guide (we hope to finish and make available soon) but until then we have found many reasons why the replacement with ferrous liners is often less reliable long term than with Nikasil alloy liners and I am sure that if we had had the opportunity to rebuild this engine originally it would still be running perfectly Ok.
Baz
Firstly I take no pleasure in reading about problems this owner and others have had with the faults they encounter and the unsatisfactory rebuilds elsewhere and I feel a lot of sympathy for the owner, the damage to the marque I love and the affect it has on model values.
What this reveals however is that our posts that warn against the variety of different solutions using ferrous liners that are often short lived and can result in further rebuilds are at least based on experience and not scare mongerring.
Two rebuilds with ferrous liners have (it seems) still not managed to fix the looming problem of bank 1 bores, still not resulted in a reliable engine and involved two different versions/designs of iron liner businesses and further liner sub-contractors (that always makes it difficult to get satisfactory support when things go wrong).
It may very well be that the fault this second time was not related to the liners but it reinforces the need for at least considering the benefits of having a proper rebuild done by the leading experts even if it may cost a little more in the short term.
Our price for 3 liners in one bank is only £1400 +Vat but reduces to £2,500 + Vat for all 6 (effectively just a little more expensive than this second rebuild charged) and provides a best solution with the longest lasting bores that run with any piston coating and provide the best cooling and stable expansion and contraction characteristics that suit this engine type and with the crankcase converted to a closed deck design - later proven reliable by the Gt3 and turbo variants and the Gen 2 engines.
Furthermore because all our work is carried out "IN-HOUSE" - if ever there was a subsequent problem (even if it was or was not caused by us) at least all the negotiating would be with just one supplier - with no opportunity for us to blame others - and we would do our best (as always) to help the owner and keep everyone happy.
Fortunately our reliability record is superb and the fact that we have several dedicated people and facilities doing nothing else but engine repairs and rebuilds daily - enables us to take a more supportive view of any subsequent problems as we are set-up to handle them effectively and quickly.
We have gone to great lengths to explain why we think it is best to adopt the solution we uniquely offer in our new engine guide (we hope to finish and make available soon) but until then we have found many reasons why the replacement with ferrous liners is often less reliable long term than with Nikasil alloy liners and I am sure that if we had had the opportunity to rebuild this engine originally it would still be running perfectly Ok.
Baz
