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Engine Issue - Trucked Away
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Oh No... what have I said...
Correction correction...
That was meant to imply ownership... not garage queenship...
Although truth be known, I really don't get it out enough... that's more a reflection of my lack of free time rather than lack of desire.
Zingers, please forgive....
Correction correction...
That was meant to imply ownership... not garage queenship...
Although truth be known, I really don't get it out enough... that's more a reflection of my lack of free time rather than lack of desire.
Zingers, please forgive....
Picked up the car last night... felt very tight... but I would expect that after a major service and lots of new bits... HT Leads, Sparks, Rotor Arms, Dizzy Caps, Fuel Regulator, injector clean and all the major service bits inc break fluid.
They asked me to bring it back after ~10 trips so they can inspect the plugs and specifically cylinder 4 (not 5) which was the troublesome cylinder. If any of the plugs are fouled they'll know there might be another issue that caused the fouled plugs that might reoccur over time. It could be a slight oil leak getting into the cylinder that needs addressing.
For now... it's running beautifully...
Whilst I was in there, I spotted another 993... targa...with.. wait for it... 6k miles on it!!!!
Import from Japan, the current owner does not drive his collection of cars but treats them as investments.
Funny thing is, condition didn't look that much different from a 70k car that has been treated well... I guess it's just scarcity that creates this market... as Raj said.. this is not a drivers car...
I give Raj and team at 911SBD a pretty high score... they only charged me labour for the specific things they changed, not any of the diagnostic work or the test drives etc etc. They gave me a very detailed invoice at the end talking me through all the specific work they did. I felt like they were doing everything they could to minimise my expense, but not cut corners.
I got talking to Raj and he's got a 997 turbo he bought from a client and he's been working on it as a bit of a track car, got it up to 700bhp. It been set up by Chris and Center of Gravity.
The genesis of 911SBD was Porshe Cup Car mechanic, which over the years Raj split off the 'street car' servicing business which now is 911SBD. He has a relationship with Chris Turner Porsche down the road.. http://www.christurner.com/. In fact. Raj had Chris over to look at my car for another opinion... Nice to see the Porsche community alive.
I'll update again after the spark plug 'review'... good incentive to drive the car more!! funny how much I was itching for a drive whilst it was out for a month and a half.
They asked me to bring it back after ~10 trips so they can inspect the plugs and specifically cylinder 4 (not 5) which was the troublesome cylinder. If any of the plugs are fouled they'll know there might be another issue that caused the fouled plugs that might reoccur over time. It could be a slight oil leak getting into the cylinder that needs addressing.
For now... it's running beautifully...
Whilst I was in there, I spotted another 993... targa...with.. wait for it... 6k miles on it!!!!
Import from Japan, the current owner does not drive his collection of cars but treats them as investments.
Funny thing is, condition didn't look that much different from a 70k car that has been treated well... I guess it's just scarcity that creates this market... as Raj said.. this is not a drivers car...
I give Raj and team at 911SBD a pretty high score... they only charged me labour for the specific things they changed, not any of the diagnostic work or the test drives etc etc. They gave me a very detailed invoice at the end talking me through all the specific work they did. I felt like they were doing everything they could to minimise my expense, but not cut corners.
I got talking to Raj and he's got a 997 turbo he bought from a client and he's been working on it as a bit of a track car, got it up to 700bhp. It been set up by Chris and Center of Gravity.
The genesis of 911SBD was Porshe Cup Car mechanic, which over the years Raj split off the 'street car' servicing business which now is 911SBD. He has a relationship with Chris Turner Porsche down the road.. http://www.christurner.com/. In fact. Raj had Chris over to look at my car for another opinion... Nice to see the Porsche community alive.
I'll update again after the spark plug 'review'... good incentive to drive the car more!! funny how much I was itching for a drive whilst it was out for a month and a half.
stuttgartmetal
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I thought Bosch diagnosed nothing wrong with the injectors ?
Distributor caps and leads are the hidden gremlin that 993's have
They look good, but aren't. All that poor starting and misfiring is this.
They're a pain to replace, but easily doable.
I bet your car flies now.
That remap will really working to its optimum now, that why you're getting pops and crackles.
I'm not going to blow my own trumpet, but I diagnosed your car fault in one.
What I mean is, I am going to f cking fire up the trumpets
I called that in one.
Cured
September Fairmile
Last one of the year
See you there
I won't say "make mine a large one", it's already big
My head I mean
But I will expect half a lager
LOL
Distributor caps and leads are the hidden gremlin that 993's have
They look good, but aren't. All that poor starting and misfiring is this.
They're a pain to replace, but easily doable.
I bet your car flies now.
That remap will really working to its optimum now, that why you're getting pops and crackles.
I'm not going to blow my own trumpet, but I diagnosed your car fault in one.
What I mean is, I am going to f cking fire up the trumpets
I called that in one.
Cured
September Fairmile
Last one of the year
See you there
I won't say "make mine a large one", it's already big
My head I mean
But I will expect half a lager
LOL
Cam, been following this post with interest and I'm pleased that you got this sorted out at last.
HT leads, distributor caps and rotors seem to be one of the common things that are failing as our cars age.
It was noticed that one of my HT leads had been "repaired" rather badly when I first got the car, so I embarked on getting them replaced.
I asked a local independent specialist and was quoted nearly £1000 to supply and fit. WTF.
So armed with Jackals guide I decided to have a crack myself. Not really a hard job, more fiddly and time consuming. It took me a day and a half. One day to strip and fit, the next half day to reassemble.
However I have since done the job again on a friend's car and having learnt some valuable lessons, like you don't have to remove the tinware to get the plug lead on the plug under the power steering pump, and we did it in under a day.
Now to the point! The plug lead that someone had repaired on my car with some tape had virtually come apart in two. It was the lower middle plug on the driver's side of the car. On my friends car the same lead had broken in the same place.
One to check if anybody is having running problems.
Both my car and my friend's car weren't showing any real signs of poor running with the old leads, but with the new leads, caps and rotors they both seemed to run smoother afterwards.
I was lucky that ECP were doing a special offer at the time and was able to get the OEM leads, caps and rotors for under £300 all in. Not too bad a saving for a day's work and some skinned knuckles. :dont know:
Edit: found a pic of the broken lead, not a very good one I admit.
HT leads, distributor caps and rotors seem to be one of the common things that are failing as our cars age.
It was noticed that one of my HT leads had been "repaired" rather badly when I first got the car, so I embarked on getting them replaced.
I asked a local independent specialist and was quoted nearly £1000 to supply and fit. WTF.
So armed with Jackals guide I decided to have a crack myself. Not really a hard job, more fiddly and time consuming. It took me a day and a half. One day to strip and fit, the next half day to reassemble.
However I have since done the job again on a friend's car and having learnt some valuable lessons, like you don't have to remove the tinware to get the plug lead on the plug under the power steering pump, and we did it in under a day.
Now to the point! The plug lead that someone had repaired on my car with some tape had virtually come apart in two. It was the lower middle plug on the driver's side of the car. On my friends car the same lead had broken in the same place.
One to check if anybody is having running problems.
Both my car and my friend's car weren't showing any real signs of poor running with the old leads, but with the new leads, caps and rotors they both seemed to run smoother afterwards.
I was lucky that ECP were doing a special offer at the time and was able to get the OEM leads, caps and rotors for under £300 all in. Not too bad a saving for a day's work and some skinned knuckles. :dont know:
Edit: found a pic of the broken lead, not a very good one I admit.
stuttgartmetal
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The Beru set Type911 supply are one and EXACT
That's to say, they're built to the exact spec.
The difficulty in fitting them is screwing them to the cowl behind the fan.
I used Jackals guide, ans apart from the part about using s shaped spanners, it was perfect. I used a snap on socket spanner for that.
Perfect.
If you're doing leads, do the plugs at the same time.
You won't be doing either again.
And for that matter, do the bottom covers at the same time, if they're leaking.
It's a long old job the 60,000 mile service.
I did it in full
Took about four days in total
I could do it in three now, but I just wanted to take my time and get it right.
I found the trick was to take breaks when it was doing your head in.
Jackals guide was the key.
That's to say, they're built to the exact spec.
The difficulty in fitting them is screwing them to the cowl behind the fan.
I used Jackals guide, ans apart from the part about using s shaped spanners, it was perfect. I used a snap on socket spanner for that.
Perfect.
If you're doing leads, do the plugs at the same time.
You won't be doing either again.
And for that matter, do the bottom covers at the same time, if they're leaking.
It's a long old job the 60,000 mile service.
I did it in full
Took about four days in total
I could do it in three now, but I just wanted to take my time and get it right.
I found the trick was to take breaks when it was doing your head in.
Jackals guide was the key.
Ahhhhh..... engine issues....
I took it for the annual MOT at Kwikfit.. and it failed emissions. They suggested taking it for a blast and then trying again... I drove it home around the corner it started behaving like it did on that fateful day when I had to have it trucked away. It didn't start smoothly. I had to put my foot on the accelerator to get it to fire up.. and it coughed a little. then the car had more movement than normal, ie like everything wasn't balanced, like one of the cylinders was not in unison with all the others.
It sounded rough, then a few hundred meters down the road it was running fine again. I decided not to take it for a blast and risk doing damage. When I got home I could smell fuel.
So I've decided to take it down to Precision Porsche on Saturday. Everyone speaks so highly of them... I feel like they'll get to the bottom of this once and for all.
I took it for the annual MOT at Kwikfit.. and it failed emissions. They suggested taking it for a blast and then trying again... I drove it home around the corner it started behaving like it did on that fateful day when I had to have it trucked away. It didn't start smoothly. I had to put my foot on the accelerator to get it to fire up.. and it coughed a little. then the car had more movement than normal, ie like everything wasn't balanced, like one of the cylinders was not in unison with all the others.
It sounded rough, then a few hundred meters down the road it was running fine again. I decided not to take it for a blast and risk doing damage. When I got home I could smell fuel.
So I've decided to take it down to Precision Porsche on Saturday. Everyone speaks so highly of them... I feel like they'll get to the bottom of this once and for all.
Riviera Bob
Nurburgring
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- 7 Nov 2013
- Messages
- 485
Good choice...Jonny will sort it and it'll be interesting to hear the remedy.
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