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Allan911
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Joined: 16 Apr 2016
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 Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:38 am Post subject: Realistic valuation needed...
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The sad sad time has come when there is the possibility that my lovely Porsche might have to be sold 
The problem is that I cannot find a consistent idea for a price. When I scan through websites the prices can vary by £50,000!! I know the top prices are a bit optimistic but I don't want to end up selling it at less that it's worth just because I need the money.
It is a 1980 Porsche 911 Targa SC. It has a complete engine rebuild, all new heat exchangers, new clutch, new interior carpets and generally in good original condition. Any ideas??
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T8
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Joined: 29 Jun 2010
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Location: Kent
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 to 911uk Allan
A few pictures would help.
You don't say where you are based but you'd probably get a better indication of value by taking it in to a couple of Porsche Specialists and asking them what they'd give you for it and/or asking what they'd advertise it for if they were selling it on a SoR basis.
Good Luck 
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Allan911
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| Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:37 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for the advice T8, i will try and add a photo.
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Allan911
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Photo as requested....
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ZZR
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| Allan911 wrote: | | Photo as requested.... |
Hello Allan
Take off the aftermarket porsche stripe, body colour those teardrops (which are 964 and not really acceptable on this shape) I'd revert to flags, lose the tacky boy racer badges on the headrests and get rid of that aerial before even considering selling it for top money.
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kas750
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Joined: 31 Mar 2013
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Location: Chorley lancashire
2006 Porsche 911
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With a tail wind you may get up to £20k.Ask on DDK.
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Mondrian
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Joined: 30 Apr 2014
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Location: Hampshire
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You haven't mentioned the condition of body/chassis as that's usually the money ball - ultra low or ultra high mileage has a huge impact on price too. A full proper rebuild at a known specialist can be over 15k so worth dropping names & invoice value if indeed that's what you had done and when it was done.
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Zingari
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Joined: 25 Oct 2009
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Location: Cheshire
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 12:43 pm Post subject:
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| kas750 wrote: | | With a tail wind you may get up to £20k.Ask on DDK. |
That's where I see it. Possibly 25 bags if turned back to original spec, good history, minimal rot and everything works. Tartan interior (if genuine pattern) is a plus
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Palladium
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Joined: 01 Nov 2015
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 4:13 pm Post subject:
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I am exhausted with looking, driving miles to see stuff that is way overpriced, with hidden rust etc, and big oil leaks, when you point it out, its just a barrage of ***** that comes back at you, so many cars have had a quick blow over to cash in on the price bubble. I was well keen on one the other day and nearly did a big 200mile round trip until I managed to prise the cat c status out of the owner who said he dident know what that was.
A clean straight car correctly priced, never hangs around for long.
If you want a good price for your car avoid auctions, people want bargains on there.
I cant help you as I want a coupe.
good luck.
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Mondrian
Monza
Joined: 30 Apr 2014
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Location: Hampshire
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Palladium, there is an 85 green coupe that's up for sale for 35k, seems sorted but high miles.
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Palladium
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 7:55 am Post subject:
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| Mondrian wrote: | | Palladium, there is an 85 green coupe that's up for sale for 35k, seems sorted but high miles. |
where would I find that pls
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isysman
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 8:18 am Post subject:
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On face value it looks in good condition. However that's not enough here to go on. Mileage, history, what work has been done, is it original paint, if not what work was done?
Agree get it back to standard. Those stripes are very personal things and I'd imagine most won't like them. Don't take it personally, I'm not insulting the car just giving best advice for a sale
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Mondrian
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Location: Hampshire
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| Palladium wrote: | | Mondrian wrote: | | Palladium, there is an 85 green coupe that's up for sale for 35k, seems sorted but high miles. |
where would I find that pls |
You have PM
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wizard993
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 9:26 am Post subject:
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There are loads of [expensive] air cooled motors doing the rounds but few really good ones about for the money being demanded. I had a look at an SC last week near Warrington with a view to buying it. It was champagne in colour and looked great but underneath it was like a tea bag.
Without doubt many old-timers are getting tarted-up to look great before getting punted and I can imagine some people ending up with a dog if they don't take a lot of care when buying.
Some of these oldies are costing upwards of £20/30k to make nice/put right so buyers beware....although the odd gem is still out there.
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Mondrian
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Joined: 30 Apr 2014
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Location: Hampshire
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The reason good ones are priced high is that the cost of rebuilding is so high ... Here is the menu;
Full engine rebuild = 15-20k
Top end refresh = 4-7k
Respray = 3-5k
Rust remedy = 5-10k
Interior = 5-8k
Suspension refresh = 2k
Oil lines = 2-3k
Brakes refresh = 1k
Electrical gremlins ......
CIS & AFM gremlins .....
Unfortunately cars that need some work aren't priced accordingly unless they figure you buy stuff from scrapyard and fix it yourself.
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Chester J Lampwick
Monza
Joined: 18 Mar 2013
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Location: Up North
1985 Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera
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I wouldn't get out of bed to look at a car with those stripes on, not only wrong but could be hiding tiny bubbles around the body trim or the suspension pivot, which equals cutting off the bodywork behind the B pillars to sort out the kidney bowls etc - being a cynical old so and so I would suspect that may be why they were struck on in the first place, but maybe you just like them.
+1 on the rubber duck aerial (which probably works much better than my correct but crap 'fuse wire' 3.2 one), and the 964 mirrors. The front calipers were originally silver, red looks a bit 'boy racer' to me.
On a positive note, the engine rebuild, heat exchangers and new clutch can only help the value.
The silly money ones seem to be ultra low mileage ones, again with those the cynic in me wonders why and if there is a story - originally too crashed or broken to bother mending but now seen to be worth doing? The cheapest ones tend to promise a lifetime of playing 'whack a mole' with rust bubbles, which led me to fit new wings after a new crop erupted on mine almost overnight.
You just have to weigh up which ones offered are in similar condition to yours, eBay's option to list sold or completed listings can help as well.
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