New996buyer said:
Thing is even the most sorted and mint 996.1 is still only going to be a £12-15k motor. If anyone was worried they could get a full Hartech strip and rebuild for £12-14k. That's still an appreciation proof icon you can use everyday.
All this fear/prejudice is keeping us 996 owners out of the self regard threads of the air-cooled world. But at least it's keeping 911 motoring accessible :dont know:
Or you could buy one of these little components and pop it in!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-996...ash=item33aed50474:g:~EsAAOSwcOFWbg2c&vxp=mtr
I wish! Seriously though, I never expected the thread to go so deep. And I'm actually still pretty unsure about it all. It's a bit like one step forwards two steps back. You think you've gotten to a point of resolution and then another angle or nuance appears from somewhere. I know Baz is held in very high esteem here and I don't question that. Thumbs up for Baz and Hartech. But for someone of my limited technical knowledge, he's just too far out there for me. I realy struggle to get a definitive layman's understanding from his posts as they tend to be very long and full of all sorts of mechanical and engineering concepts, theories and phrases. A delight for engineers and the mechanically savvy DIY'ers no doubt. But not for me and I suspect a few others of the no idea what's going on under the hood brigade. It's a bit like asking the top speed of the car and getting all sorts of potentialities and variables regarding angle of road surface, resistance of rad surface, density of traffic, wind resistance and latent atmospheric temperature measurables! I just want to know the top trump answer, 174mph. (Give or take).
I would love to see someone more capable than me pull it al together in a sort of sticky thread, one that has real consensus and then leave it there once and for all. I've learnt some thinks in this thread and have become a lot more aware of the general discussion about what the best option for owners which is the real point of this thread.
So there are different needs for different eras. The right option for a 3.4 dual row bearing owner is not necessarily the same course of action that a 997 'big bearing' owner would be looking at. Yet the IMSB discussion tends to lump them all together.
I think what I'd love to see is a sort of universally agreed excel sheet with the different engine formats, 3.4 (1), 3.4 (2 -if there was a change), 3.6.1, 3.6.2 (if there was a change), 997.1, 997.2 and a sort of drop down micro menu that says something like (and I'm making this up for the sake of argument).
3.4.1 Dual Row Bearing. 98% reliable. no need for random check until 140K miles. Remove dust shield. Change oil every 5K miles. Check with clutch change, replace with new bigger single row (Porsche Standard Part). unless it's clearly still perfect.Stay away from x,y,z...
3.6.1 Single Row. 90% reliable. Need to check before 90K. Unless perfect, change to large Single Row (Porsche standard part). Change oil every 5K.Stay away from x,y,z....
3.6.2 (is this the 997.1?) IMSB is locked inside casing.You're options are x,y,z.. Stay away from x,y,z...
In fact a little app would be cool but a definitive sticky thread would do! All endorsed by the likes of Hartech, Autofarm and whoever else who does this type of remedial or preventative work.....
And then, the idea is that it's all out there. Everyone sees the real transparent simplified version of it and knows exactly where they stand and what they need to do, what they should do and what they shouldn't do. And I think when we get to that point, the engine issue with 996's will be over once and for all and the world can start to talk about how brilliant the car actually is and always has been. So I'm happy for the real egg heads on here to bang heads with the techno wizards at Hartech and whomever, and create the definitive one pager and I'll keep asking stupid questions whenever the lingo gets a bit techie. In actual fact, if people had more confidence in terms of the best course of action, owners would be much more likely to spend a few bob and get stuff done. I think what inhibits a lot of is is not wanting to get caught up in the 'apparent' snake oil sales pitch.