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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that Rossi should have kept his head and not worried about MM but I do think MM knew what he was doing, in this last race it was clear that he was not even trying to overtake Lorenzo, yet when Dani came by and I believe had the pace to win, he was straight back past and running him wide.

Even Lorenzo has as good as said it in an interview
“They knew what I had in play,” Lorenzo said.

“The fact they are Spaniards like me helped me.

“That helped me because for sure in another kind of race they would have tried to overtake which they didn’t this time.”

“The title had to be for Spain.”

All in all a sad end to a great season, Lorenzo is a great rider but for me this title is tainted by some questionable tactics from MM in the last few races, I hope Rossi has also learnt from the incident and bring on next year for another great season of racing
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All in all a sad end to a great season, Lorenzo is a great rider but for me this title is tainted by some questionable tactics from MM in the last few races



And for me.

The way that Pedrosa caught MM and JG with four laps left made it clear that both Hondas could have beaten Lorenzo if Marquez wanted them to.

If Danni had managed to pass them both it would have been 'interesting' to see what Marquez would have done.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I think we all know who the real world champion is dont we !!!!


The history books will show Lorenzo and in 3 years time that's all that will matter
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lorenzo has unquestionably had a great season, more race wins than anyone else and some blistering pace at many of the circuits. However, the guy is just so dull and very often up his own a$$ which makes it hard for me to like him! Rossi is unique and it would have been great to see him take a 10th world title.

I'll be honest, I was desperately hoping that Marquez would do something stupid on the last lap which resulted in both him and Pedrosa crashing making Rossi champ but alas it wasn't to be!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
JohnnyDangerous wrote:
Well I think we all know who the real world champion is dont we !!!!


The history books will show Lorenzo and in 3 years time that's all that will matter


It doesnt matter what history shows its what Lorenzo knows in his head and his heart !!!

52 years later the history books say Ali beat Cooper but anyone that watched that fight knows it was only by cheating. Ali will know he never won that fight!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just watched the movie 'hitting the Apex' with Brad Pitt voice over about these guys. In fairness, they're all otherworldly amazing.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyDangerous wrote:
arry wrote:
JohnnyDangerous wrote:
Well I think we all know who the real world champion is dont we !!!!


The history books will show Lorenzo and in 3 years time that's all that will matter


It doesnt matter what history shows its what Lorenzo knows in his head and his heart !!!


Yes, Lorenzo knows he won more races, led more laps and was consistently faster than Rossi throughout the season. The fastest man won the title - just the way it should be.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyDangerous wrote:
arry wrote:
JohnnyDangerous wrote:
Well I think we all know who the real world champion is dont we !!!!


The history books will show Lorenzo and in 3 years time that's all that will matter


It doesnt matter what history shows its what Lorenzo knows in his head and his heart !!!

52 years later the history books say Ali beat Cooper but anyone that watched that fight knows it was only by cheating. Ali will know he never won that fight!


Oh but it does matter. I never saw that fight but I have seen the record.

Very few championships in any sport are won by pure unadulterated talent and not a hint of anything else; injury, mechanical failure, poor refereeing decisions, pure bad luck, to name but a few

The fact of the matter is Lorenzo has one extra trophy in his cabinet and Rossi doesn't. The record book will show what it shows but nobody in even the short term will discredit Lorenzo the win to the extent that he'll hand it over to Rossi as some sort of recompense. And if Rossi had won a title he inherited by any of the above reasons (and he has, hasn't he? Just not in as high profile of circumstances) do you think he'd paw it off to his rival?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
JohnnyDangerous wrote:
arry wrote:
JohnnyDangerous wrote:
Well I think we all know who the real world champion is dont we !!!!


The history books will show Lorenzo and in 3 years time that's all that will matter


It doesnt matter what history shows its what Lorenzo knows in his head and his heart !!!

52 years later the history books say Ali beat Cooper but anyone that watched that fight knows it was only by cheating. Ali will know he never won that fight!


Oh but it does matter. I never saw that fight but I have seen the record.

Very few championships in any sport are won by pure unadulterated talent and not a hint of anything else; injury, mechanical failure, poor refereeing decisions, pure bad luck, to name but a few

The fact of the matter is Lorenzo has one extra trophy in his cabinet and Rossi doesn't. The record book will show what it shows but nobody in even the short term will discredit Lorenzo the win to the extent that he'll hand it over to Rossi as some sort of recompense. And if Rossi had won a title he inherited by any of the above reasons (and he has, hasn't he? Just not in as high profile of circumstances) do you think he'd paw it off to his rival?


Not into boxing then ?? Hand
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was, but in my era it was all about Benn, Eubank, Tyson. I can't do today's boxing - the pre fight slanging matches are so handbags OTT USA style it irritates me Laughing


Anyway - crap parodies have started
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heG60xUF2e4
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSAXPzcFupM
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